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Needs Help Identifying This Japanese/Chinese Coin?

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Hey guys, one of them is very very thin, while the other is a little bit thicker than the other. I have no clue what they are :(, I'd appreciate it if any of guys would help me!


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 Posted 01/11/2012  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We'll probably need a photo of the other sides of these to nail down their origin, SD.

The coin on the left has Arabic script, btw.
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The coin on the left is from the Ottoman Empire (look under Turkey in Krause) dated 1255. It's probably a 5 para

The other one isn't a coin but a token or charm
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I was about to post and saw Bacchus' reply. Agree mostly, Ottoman, for Abdul Mejid (ascension AH 1255 / AD 1839; of course to date the coin we need to see the regnal year under the tughra on the other side). Rather Turkey than Egypt (no star under 1255). For the denomination, I believe it's 10 para - I judge the size by the ruled paper.
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Hey, thanks so much guys for helping me out. Well guess what, I cleaned the Japanese coin to the right shortly after making this post, and my heart just stopped for a second or two:
ITS GOLD, ITS SOLID SOLID REAL BEAUTIFUL SEXY GOLD
wow, well here's a picture:

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Guys, I not feeling the japanese in this coin, where may it be from? the letters/chars are so strange :D
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This token/charm is only one sided unfortunatly, it weighs an exact 3.0 gr for such a thin piece of gold :D
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Well, first of all, I hate to break it to you, but your charm is not made of gold. I can guarantee it. Real gold does not get dirty like that in the first place - that's why people love gold so much, because it doesn't rust, oxidize or corrode. It will be made of some kind of brass. Feel free to take it to a jeweller and have it tested, if you wish - but I am certain that the gold content will be zero percent.

Second, I'm not seeing any recognizable Chinese/Japanese characters either. Perhaps it's simply written in a calligraphic style I'm not familiar with, but I'm wondering if it might not have been made by someone here in the West, who could not actually read or write Chinese but simply wanted to decorate their charm with something that looked like Chinese writing. In truth, I have no idea what the piece is or where it might have come from.

Finally, please don't get into the habit of cleaning up "dirty-looking" coins. This piece looked fine before it was cleaned. If it had been a genuine old antique coin, such harsh cleaning would have destroyed much of its value.
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The "letters" are weapons, on the left, and branches/leaves on the right. They are not letters at all.
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The "letters" are weapons, on the left... They are not letters at all.

Well, no wonder I was having trouble reading them, then.
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 Posted 01/19/2012  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Enlil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it is from Middle Earth or War(geek) Craft.
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