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 Posted 01/11/2012  8:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I had a 1946 MS-63 dime (ICCS) grade. But the flip got scratched up, and it really bugged me. So I cut it out of the flip and its now in 2X2. Is this bad?
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 Posted 01/11/2012  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladhunter13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Depends on how important it was to you to have the coin graded and certified. Removing it from the holder basically voided the ICCS certification and grade. I hear of quite a few different collectors who crack the slabs to put coins in their folders. It all depends on how and what you want to collect. For resale...keep it in the TPG slab/holder for easier sale that will most likely realize the best value for it.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why would it be bad? The flip isn't a collectors item, the coin is. I've cut very expensive coins out of flips because I view them as useless and potentially capable of causing damage with moisture.

ICCS doesn't certify coins, they render an opinion and offer their packaging services, not a guarantee like PCGS (even then I crack the slabs). So in my opinion, it doesn't matter at all.
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coincollect1 => I actually cut every single one of my coins outta those flips => that way I can display them "naked and true" in my albums ...

NOTE => However, I "collect" coins, so I am not planning on selling-off my coins in the near future (or ever!) ...

... but "if", I was gonna sell any of my coins, then I may think about taking them back to a grader beforehand? ... otherwise, keeping them in their flips seems a bit like using a toy that is still in the box, or sitting on a couch that still has the plastic protector on it!

Maybe I'm stupid old school, but I regularly sort and resort my coins, "carefully" (handling them nicely/gently with a soft gloved hand => that way we both have an understanding => we appreciate each other!)

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 Posted 01/11/2012  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok thanks. I didnt know if it took the value away from it. I wanted it to be in a binder I have for my coins. thanks again
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For future reference, ICCS will replace a damaged outer flip for $2. Also, peanut butter (seriously) will remove a lot of goo from outer flips.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wasnt anything that could be taken off of the flip. I was heavlily scratched, so if I wanted to take pictures it would look right
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 Posted 01/11/2012  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
you can say that again
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 Posted 01/11/2012  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
im sorry, about that I delete one of the comments
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 Posted 01/11/2012  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canuck1us to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In theory, the only value you lost was the cost to have it certified. Presumably, if at some time you wanted to sell it and felt like having it re-certified would increase the value, you could have it redone. If you haven't damaged the coin in some way, it should theoretically receive the same grade.

I don't buy very many graded coins but when I have, I do take them out of the holder. I usually keep the certification, not that it would have meaning to anyone else but me.

I do have a ICCS graded piedfort toonie that I have kept in its holder because I don't think it would fit in a 2 x 2 very well.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ive kept the slip that tells you the grade... doesn't matter though. And canuck, what is a piedfort... is it just a bigger version of the toonie?>
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 Posted 01/11/2012  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canuck1us to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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And canuck, what is a piedfort... is it just a bigger version of the toonie?


The piedfort version of the toonie is twice as thick as the regular toonie. 3.6 mm vs 1.8 mm to be precise.

There are other piedfort coins out there. The term "piedfort" describes coins that are struck on a planchet thicker than normal - usually at least twice the normal thickness.
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Re: Peanut butter...
Crunchy or smooth? :D
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 Posted 01/12/2012  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Smoothie. Seriously.
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Crunchy or smooth? :D


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Dosen't change the grade of the coin by putting it in a 2x2. Just keep the flip for future reference if needed. If anything you only lost the cost to have the coin re-certified if ever desired. Enjoy your coins, and if your not happy with a flip then put it whatever holder makes you appreciate the coin. I don't see anything you have done bad here.
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