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1921 Morgan Dollar

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 Posted 01/13/2007  04:01 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lightwind_99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
well, it's my first time to post a picture of a Morgan dollar. i'd like to know the expert's opinion on this:)

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 Posted 01/13/2007  04:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lightwind_99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think I need a better scanner.....sorry for the poor quality of the pic:(
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 Posted 01/13/2007  09:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Light,
I tried to help you pics a little.Still not a lot better but the coins looks to be in the MS range under all that toning.Don't let SuperDave see that 1921

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 Posted 01/13/2007  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by TLS5933

Light,
I tried to help you pics a little.Still not a lot better but the coins looks to be in the MS range under all that toning.Don't let SuperDave see that 1921

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Too late.

I agree, it looks Mint State, understanding that the pics are a little small for conclusive opinion. Lightwind, here's a start for you on the road to identifying this coin more conclusively. Have a look at the reeding, and let me know which pic it more closely resembles:

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 Posted 01/14/2007  04:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lightwind_99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hi dave, I think the reed looks more a lot on pic number 2, the one at the bottom.

i got a problem here, I got a lot of Morgan dollars but I dont know how to grade them...from what I believe some are VAM but scrutinizing thses can be eye straining:)

hmmm....i was thinking of selling some but I need to know first the price range for an MS candidate. all of my morgans are uncertified thoug and mostly circulated.
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All Morgans have VAM numbers assigned to them. Even the ones in untouched basal Mint State - these are usually VAM-1 for that year. So, Lightwind, I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but you've got your work cut out for you.

Having said that, the overwhelming majority of Morgan VAM's have no real additional value, so attributing them is just an exercise in scholarship.
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 Posted 01/15/2007  02:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lightwind_99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by SuperDave

All Morgans have VAM numbers assigned to them. Even the ones in untouched basal Mint State - these are usually VAM-1 for that year. So, Lightwind, I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but you've got your work cut out for you.

Having said that, the overwhelming majority of Morgan VAM's have no real additional value, so attributing them is just an exercise in scholarship.



That's ok dave I understand:)
all I'm after really is getting more knowledge on these Morgan dollars:)
and the art of grading coins is definitely my goal, that's why I let you guys have an impression on each coin I'm posting and comparing it with my opinion:)
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I would call this one MS60-61. With the toning/mottling, it is difficult to see any contact or bag marks. There is a significant amount of chatter on the cheek and neck, though. The luster looks pretty good.
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I don't know how I let this thread escape my attention. Lightwind, if your coin's reeding matches the lower of my two examples, then it's an Infrequent Reeding type, having a count of 157 reeds, the lowest number ever minted during the Morgan series. It should have noticeably fewer reeds than any other Morgan you own.

All 9 variations of the Infrequently Reeded 1921 are Top 100 VAM's, and carry both significance and additional value as a result. Have a look over here, to see about attribution, and please ask more questions as necessary:

http://vamworld.wikispaces.com/1921-P+VAMs
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AU-58 pos MS-60
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 Posted 01/22/2007  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lightwind_99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didnt know that the reeding can be an attribute to the rarity or variety example of a Morgan.
i have to meticulously count all the reeds one by one...this is gonna take time:)
thank you for the information Superdave:) I will let you know the result:)
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quote:
Have a look at the reeding...


I'm trying to understand what you guys are talking about. I've seen many references to 'reeds'. What are they? Where are they on the coin? Please point it out to me. (arrowed) Thanks.
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reeded edge

Term for the grooved notches on the edge of some coins. These were first imparted by the Mint's edge machine, later in the minting process by the use of close collars - these sometimes called the third die or collar die.
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