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M. Junius Brutus - Real Or Fake

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 Posted 01/14/2012  6:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Looking for honest opinions on this coin. This is a denarius of Marcus Junius Brutus , 54 BC. LIBERTAS, Head of Liberty right / Consul L Junius Brutus, between two lictors, preceeded by accensus, all walking left, BRVTVS. RSC 31; Albert 1361, Crawford 433/1; Sydenham 906; Junia 31.

REAL OR FAKE? I can't find it listed in the fakes reports.

M.-Junius-Brutus---Real-Or-Fake

M.-Junius-Brutus---Real-Or-Fake
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 Posted 01/14/2012  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks good to me. I see what looks like a countermark on the throat and maybe another one across from the chin.
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 Posted 01/14/2012  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it looks real. Despite it being holed, that's still a nice looking coin right there IMO.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add giano to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion it's genuine,as usually you must look even at weight...but my eye say genuine....are you going to buy it?.....
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.are you going to buy it?....


I was, but it got too expensive so I passed on it. A coin like this in fine condition can go for many hundreds of dollars. But with it being holed, I thought I might be able to pick it up at a reasonable cost. But, alas, it wasn't meant to be.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I would also back out if bidding got high on this one.


Sometimes I am willing to take a chance on a coin if the price is right. As I said, in fine condition this coin can bring in a large sum of money. However, since it was holed and the price was low, I was willing to gamble that it was genuine. But the price shot up to where it no longer made any sense to me to make that gamble.

I have a portrait coin of Julius Caesar that had been holed at some time and has been plugged sometime since. But because it was holed, and the price was right, I took the gamble that it was genuine. It turned out not only to be genuine, but the provenence of the coin was impressive. So sometimes it pays to take chances. I won't discuss the times I took chances and they didn't pay off.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It turned out not only to be genuine, but the provenence of the coin was impressive


jwharper- hmm, interesting. So out of curiosity what what the provenance of your Julius Caesar coin?
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I saw that coin on FAC, and the plug isn't too distracting. It's a Julius Caesar after all--I'd like that one too.
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 Posted 01/20/2012  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pirate1707 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin certainly appears to be genuine. The fact that it is holed would detract some, but not too much, from its value for me because it seems likely that it was holed an antiquity and may have been worn by an ancient Roman in support of what the coin represents. For example I own a 1766 Pitt Token with a hole. The hole is somewhat crude and has a nice patina around it. I am convinced it worn by an early American colonist as a protest to the Stamp Act. It was, after all the Stamp Act that so angered the colonists that got the idea of independence from Britian to spread. I also like the countermarks on the coin. I can't say for sure from the picture but one looks like it might be an owl. The coin is of Brutus one of the assassins of Julius Ceaser and quite historical in its own right. I would guess at least a couple of hundred dollars for the coin. Do you know what it sold for?
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 Posted 01/20/2012  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the Ancients discussion board.

I don't recall what it actually sold for, but I stopped bidding when it topped $125. I felt confident it was original, but, I've been fooled before. It is hard sometimes to make that judgement based solely on the image posted by a seller. Plus, I had never dealt with this particular seller prior to this, so I had nothing to judge them on.

Coins like this one without the hole can go for several thousands. I would have liked to own it, but, oh well. It wasn't meant to be.

Again,

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