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Another "Road Show" Just Rolled Into Town.

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 Posted 01/15/2012  6:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add North of 49 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Well another one of those "road show" ( gold and silver grab for a ridiculously low price) coin shows just rolled into town again . They have set up shop at a local hotel like they usually do. I will do my duty as I see it and steer anyone I can away from this fly-by-night scam.
..............sorry for ranting ................. it's just that it is my experience that it is little old ladies who take their late husbands coin collection to this place thinking that they are going to the "antiques road show" that they see on TV. They feel that they are getting a fair and honest deal. ..............oops sorry there I go again.

Anyway I do have a question. I'm sure that any coins turned in to this place will be resold for the silver and probably melted down. With "road shows" popping up all over the country doing the same thing I can't help but wonder if this will be oddly beneficial to those of us who already have silver collections. Ours is a hobby of supply and demand. As family collections of old silver coins disappear will the remaining coins become more valuable? Your thoughts?

Again I apologize if I have offended anyone with my ranting.
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 Posted 01/15/2012  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just show up and offer to buy coins from them at their buying price plus 10% of course!
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 Posted 01/15/2012  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just set up shop out front and you might get a few great coins at melt before they bounce you into the sidewalk
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 Posted 01/15/2012  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think these "road shows" illustrate why everyone should leave detailed collection disposal instructions with family members to prevent these vultures from profiting from uniformed widows or heirs.
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01/15/2012 8:35 pm
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 Posted 01/15/2012  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I will do my duty as I see it and steer anyone I can away from this fly-by-night scam.

So you'll rent the next room and put a big sign on the door offering second opinions?
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 Posted 01/16/2012  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add North of 49 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, I might just try all of these ideas.

But when I say I steer people away, I generally recommend that they check out this site or I give them the names of a couple of reputable dealers and tell them that if they must go then go prepared.
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 Posted 01/16/2012  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Barrie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
North of 49...
Where is this road show of which you speak?
Might someone alert a TV program(s)such as Marketplace on CBC about these scam events? Try to get them to do an expose?
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 Posted 01/16/2012  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add terrib to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a great idea Barry. Maybe they would do a story and interview a local shop or collector too.
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 Posted 01/16/2012  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add david mackenzie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are right on the $$$$$ NORTH of 49 Scams Fly By Night!
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 Posted 01/17/2012  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sunlightonthemountain to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello and Help.
I am one of those fortunate coin collectors that inheirted my collection. But before I went to the "roadshow" I thought I would try and do some homework. It lend me here to this forum. I am looking for a reputable dealer in the vancouver area. mostly canadian coins but some others as well. Not sure that I want to sell, but would like to at the very least find the insurance value of everything. Could you help me. ? Thank you.
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 Posted 01/17/2012  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello and welcome sunlightonthemountain.
Is that mountain Burnaby Mountain? Can you pop over to my place on Sperling and make sure the tenants haven't started a grow op? Much thanks.

That aside, there was a recent thread of reputable Lower Mainland dealers here;
https://goccf.com/t/106971

What you do is pick one and PAY them for an evaluation clearly stating that you aren't selling, merely insuring. Selling to the guy who does your appraisal is almost always a bad idea with few exceptions.

There are discussions on that topic in the main coin forum right now.
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 Posted 01/17/2012  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sunlightonthemountain to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you , Ugly,

No not Burnaby mountian, good luck with those tenants though. Again many thanks.
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 Posted 01/17/2012  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Barrie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I noticed this evening while watching the news the people who run these so-called 'road shows' are now advertising on Television. There is no end to their cheekiness.
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 Posted 01/17/2012  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realpenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I hope this "Road Show" isn't taking anyone for a ride. I don't know how the "Road Shows" work or how unfair their dealings are so I won't comment.


Quote:
"As family collections of old silver coins disappear will the remaining coins become more valuable?"

Depends.

Are more people coming into the hobby than leaving? I know people who are selling off their parents old train collections for big bucks right now. The only buyers though are the older generation that are dying off in the first place. I am not into trains and don't know the market but it seems to be a dying hobby. Though if you were to cash in... now might be the time for that collectable.

If there are enough new collectors will they have the disposable income to buy expensive coins? I have heard disposable income is dropping for younger generations - I don't know how true this is.

Maybe it will be more affordable to collect NCLT's one day if your completist than circulation coins? Maybe the prices are already overvalued and it's a bubble? Maybe there is more goods and collectables other than coins than ever before and coins won't get noticed as much? Maybe credit cards (plastic) will dominate and kids will never touch coins and thus never get interested in the first place? Maybe kids will perceive coin collecting as something old people do and thus uncool? Maybe Canada will break up or join another country and no one will care about Canadian coins then? Maybe one old guy will own all the silver coins and have a monopoly on them?

Ultimately no one needs to collect coins... it is a hobby... if it is fun and affordable... people will do it... if not most won't... then the prices will crash... then maybe more people will start collecting again because it became more affordable all of a sudden.

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 Posted 01/17/2012  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrCanada to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It peeves me off to see these guys burn the unsuspecting.I have thought about this and the only reasonable idea I could come up with would be to have a good active coin club.If your local club placed a ready go ad beside there ad, they would go away.
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 Posted 01/17/2012  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add secoinedchance to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree totally with the OP about these so-called "Roadshows" Hard to imagine anyone leaving one of these things after selling their coins and not feeling Iike they just got hosed. (Although granted, just being at one to sell coins kind of indicates a naive obliviousness I hate to say)

I also think that there's really good aside questions being asked in this topic...Are people getting into coin collecting for the intracasies of building and maintaining a nice collection? Or, are they merely interested in the buy low/sell high mentality of the value of coins.

I am a metal detectorist. I love it. And have been since the day I pulled my first silver coin from 9" deep. Something about where that coin had been in it's life really struck me. After that I just kind of branched out into coin collecting. And coin roll hunting.

I have a fairly simple collection at the moment, but I'm working on it, one coin at a time.
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01/17/2012 10:57 pm
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