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Fake 1942/41 Overdate On The Bay

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 Posted 01/17/2012  10:55 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAP...B:SS:US:1123

Surface has problems.

The date is flat for the condition and appear soldered, marking is missing for the second 4.
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 Posted 01/17/2012  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsearcher83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dates at the wrong angle.. The you in TRUST is falling..

Do we know how many dies were used to strike these overdates?
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01/17/2012 11:29 am
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 Posted 01/17/2012  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add briank to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shouldn't the 9 have more of a point at the bottom as well as the second "1" have a point at the top of the 1 instead of flat top like a T? I'm new at the grading, judging etc and am just trying to pickup a few things.
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 Posted 01/17/2012  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsearcher83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like how filters autocorrect "U" to "you"...
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 Posted 01/17/2012  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have reported this coin as fake to ebay.
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 Posted 01/17/2012  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add EarlB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you also contact the seller? I would expect one with a feedback reputation such as theirs (unless you guys know something I don't) would be more than interested to know if something they are offering is not right and to resolve the situation on their own. I know I would if I were them. Earl
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 Posted 01/17/2012  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andrewjconners to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No doubt its fake. You can even see a solder mark. Reported
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 Posted 01/17/2012  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also have left seller a message.
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His feedback isn't all that great if you ask me. I would avoid that seller like the plague. Anyone who consistently has unhappy buyers is a no go in my book and he obviously makes a hobby out of being deceitful.
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 Posted 01/17/2012  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For the sake of future reference, I have archived this coin's date, comparing to a certified example.
This coin is so many kinds of wrong, and not just the date. Look at the designer initials and IGWT, for starters.
For the merc experts out there--do you think the whole coin is a fake? I hope it gets pulled in time.

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Yeah, the whole coin is fake from the motto "IN GOD WE TRUST" to the surface finish. Nothing is right about this one.
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Do we know how many dies were used to strike these overdates?


One die for the 1942/1-P and one die for the 1942/1-D, it is also worth noting that they are both Class 3 Doubled Dies(design hub doubling). I suspect that the entire coin is a fake rather than just an altered date.
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I get email notification from ebay for error Mercury dimes to keep track of any bad ones on the Bay, anytime I get suspicious of what I look at. I normally will question the seller, but this one is bad enough that I need to post it here.

As of now seller hasn't respond to my message.
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Interesting. I could buy the fact that he/she might not know it's fake. I could even let the few negative feedback comments go as one that's been there for 15 years I know you can't make everyone happy not if you have thousands of transactions. I've had only a fraction of that sellers tranactions and have still had a hanfull of strange birds I've run accross that nothing would make them happy. However, if I was informed something I had listed was not what I was advertising it as, it would be gone in an instant. Earl

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Not an altered date, the whole coin is bad.
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 Posted 01/17/2012  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The listing has finally been removed, thanks to those that help in keeping fakes out of the Bay!
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