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Irish Gun Money

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I was told that these were counterfeits from melting cannon metal. Can anyone shed any more information on this? I know there was a similar posting to this one that I saw, but the words and lettering on this coin is different.

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 Posted 01/17/2012  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Wikipedia article on Gun Money is a reasonable summary of the coinage issue. There are several examples on the forum, too, like this one with my August 1689 halfcrown; do a forum search for "gun money" to find the others.

They are not "counterfeits", in the usual sense of that word. They were issued by James II after he fled England and tried to raise a loyal army in Ireland. He was broke, so he issued this token coinage, made from scrapped cannons, old church bells or anything else brassy that came to hand, under the promise that when he regained the throne, the tokens would be exchanged 1 for 1 with good English silver coin.

Gun money is dated by month as well as year of issue. Your coin is a halfcrown ("XXX" means 30 pence, or 2 shillings sixpence) dated September 1689. This, in theory, would have allowed the earlier dated tokens to be given first priority of redemption. Since James II never regained the throne, the matter of redemption never came up.
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Thanks Sap!
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