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Two More Roman Attributions Needed!

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I have been cleaning some of the coins I received from different sources and have done well on some, but as said in other posts, not so good with other uncleans. So again I need your help in identifying the emeperor's busts on these coins. I will try to attribute them myself once I know the guy on the coin!

So here's the first offering: I haven't seen a helmeted individual as of yet, but I believe he is wearing one. The coin weighs 1.80 grams and is 18mm. The reverse is kind of interesting as it looks like a galley or ship on top and has a curious circular mark below it.

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The second one is a little heavier at 2.71 grams and is 21mm across. It had some good detail on the front except where the guy's face got a little crunched. The reverse was difficult to clean and I was afraid to take any more of the red off without removing the patina. I might try another method latter on. It looks like someone standing up, gazing skyward.
Again, please don't attribute them for me, just point me in the right direction and I'll do my best to attribute them. And of course, thank you guys upfront for your help.
I probably will have to do this tomorrow, as we have a massive snowstorm bearing down on us early tomorrow and part of my job is to remove it once it hits.
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 Posted 01/17/2012  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first coin looks like a City commemorative coin with Roma on the obverse. Let me have some time with the second coin.
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as we have a massive snowstorm bearing down on us early tomorrow

I can only dream of snow where I live lol

Anyways, I know the first is a city commemorative. I believe the obverse inscription is "VRBS ROMA".

The second I don't have an idea sorry. I know I've seen that bust before
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oop got beat to coin #1
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Not sure with the second coin, but it may be a Licinius I. Take a look there, but if you still don't find it, let me know, and I'll keep looking.
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 Posted 01/17/2012  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with JW, the second coin does look like Licinius. Oxos are you in the Northwest? I'm live in a motorhome in Pasco, WA and we are expecting snow tonight also. Should have travelled south where the weather is warmer, but I like it here in WA.
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Yeah echizento, I live on the North Olympic Peninsula. I noticed you lived in Pasco when we were giving our New Year's greetings! I wish I lived in a warmer climate sometimes! Like JW! Maybe when I retire. I'll have to look tomorrow guys, gotta hit the sack. The rainy Northwest is gonna get clobbered with mucho snow! Yikes, I hate that stuff! Thanks for putting me on the track once again. Talk at you all tomorrow night.
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Got a minute for lunch and looked up Licinius I and I think I got the attribution. RIC VII 9, E (although not listed on Wildwinds) or just RIC VII 9 if the 'E' on my coin is a 'officina' letter. How'd I do? Also, what is a 'city commerative?' And what city is it a commerative of? (1st coin) Thanks again. Back to the snow.
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These city commemorative coins commemorated the change of the imperial capital from Rome to Constantinople.
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 Posted 01/18/2012  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first coin's attribution looks correct to me. Good job. See, it's getting easier.
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My first take on the second coin was Licinius as well. But that's as far as I got.
I'm in WA state too, just N. of Seattle. Lots of snow right now--and more is forecast.
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Hard to see the mint mark on the City Commemorative. The reverse picture is upside down.

Here is a coin from Arles on wildwind with a similar marking above the wolf.

Arles
RIC VII 379

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EDIT: I believe Arles may be the only mint that had the "dot in wreath" marking


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Thanks guys, been too busy to really respond with the snow, now its an ice storm in Washington! Incredible! Appreciate the help though! Regards,
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Thats a nice wolf and twins coin with the wreath, and the second coin looks like a nice one too.Looks like your keeping busy.
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