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Victoria Coinage - Young/Jubilee/Old Heads - Proper Names?

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Looks like I'm pushing my sixpence collection further back in time. Are these the only portrait versions? And are these the 'proper' names?
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There are actualy 4 diferant portraits Of Queen Victoria.
Young head or "Bun"
Gothic Head
Jubilee head
Old head
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 Posted 01/19/2012  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There weren't any "Gothic sixpences", so yes, those three are all you will find in that series.

And yes, those are the usual names they go by, except "old head" is also known as "veiled head".
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 Posted 01/19/2012  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks trout & Sap, appreciate the help.
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 Posted 01/19/2012  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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There weren't any "Gothic sixpences",


I just put the Gothic head in there in case aar was going to extend his other brit coins
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 Posted 01/20/2012  07:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can just see it now, a fake Gothic sixpence made in China.
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Can just see it now, a fake Gothic sixpence made in China.

... dated 1813
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 Posted 01/20/2012  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, I will bite. I know she can't be on an 1813 coin but why pick that date?
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I was alluding to the same thing as you, that counterfeiters sometimes don't do their homework and produce something outrageously wrong. Like a type that hasn't existed or the date that doesn't fit. Or both.

This is not limited to counterfeiters only. Since my British coin collection is getting pretty saturated I got into medals and other "memorabilia" lately. Now I have a "spade guinea" token with Geo III "dated" 1700.

I also have a few "To Hanover" tokens. Most of them bear date 1837 which makes perfect sense. One, though, has 1861 which makes the whole thing a bit ... meaningless. But then, I have one of them with "Victoria Queen" legend on the obverse with the date 1830 !?

Edit: Oh, 1813 was just a randomly picked "bad" year.
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What about China-made Gothic Pennies?:) I think we'll see them soon.
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 Posted 02/03/2012  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update:
The Young head has three portrait revisions:
1st head, 1834 through 1867
2nd head, 1867 through 1880
3rd head, 1880 through 1887
Jubilee head:
1887 through 1893 (1893 very scarce)
Old Head:
1893 through 1901

If I have something wrong, let me know - I'm always learning!
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02/04/2012 11:37 am
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 Posted 02/03/2012  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You probably meant to start with 1838, not 64.

For sixpence, I believe, you pretty much got it. If you'd like fewer varieties go for threepence, there are only three; if you want more varieties, then it's any other denomination.
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 Posted 02/04/2012  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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You probably meant to start with 1838, not 64.

thanks, svs!
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 Posted 02/04/2012  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Um, need another correction. Now you overshot in the other direction, 1834 is a bit too early for Victoria.
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