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Hello everyone,
I was looking around a few sites trying to find 2011 and 2012 uncirculated silver eagles but all I find is eagles from the San Francisco and West Point mint. Did they stop making silver eagles at the Philadelphia mint? Then I also just saw that the San Francisco and West Point eagles don't have mint marks, is this correct? Is the West Point eagle like the 06-08 burnished eagles? Sorry if this is basic.I just got back into the hobby and want to fill in the last two spots of my silver eagle collection. Thanks for any info.
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This is one of those questions that gets asked often

I would ask what album you are putting together.

A quick answer would be.
Bullion American Silver Eagles ( ASE) do not have mint marks.
-- I think that bullion ASE's are currently being minted at West Point and San Francisco.

Burnished/uncirculated ASE's 2006,2007,2008, 2011 All have "W" mint mark. ( The 25th anniversary Set has a special burnished "S" mint mark coin)

Proof ASE depending on the year can have a S, P or W mint mark
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, thunderdog512!

Silvertowne has 2012, prolly 2011 as well:

http://www.silvertowne.com/p-18421-...agle-bu.aspx
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Here is a complete listing of Gold and Silver Eagles. As was said ealier bullion coins dont have a mint mark. Only the proof coins have a mm.
http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/price...ices61.shtml
Silver Eagles are my favorite subject!
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Only the proof coins have a mm.


Except for the Burnished ones of course which are not proofs and do have a mm!
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I would ask what album you are putting together

I'm putting together a NGC ms69 1986-present uncirculated (bullion coins) set.

So let me get this straight they are now producing the bullion version of the silver eagle at San Francisco and West Point? Why did they move from Philadelphia to these other mints? Sorry for my lack of knowledge on this subject. You take a break for a year and come back totally confused
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Actually, they started making the bullion versions at West Point in 1999, along with Philly, and by 2001 they were making them only at West Point until 2011 when they made the bullion versions at West Point and San Francisco. None of the bullion versions is identified by mint mark however. Philly apparently just did not have the capacity as ASE's became more popular.
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Actually, they started making the bullion versions at West Point in 1999, along with Philly, and by 2001 they were making them only at West Point until 2011 when they made the bullion versions at West Point and San Francisco. None of the bullion versions is identified by mint mark however. Philly apparently just did not have the capacity as ASE's became more popular.


Would you recommend me buying both the San Francisco and West Point coins for my collection? I'm speaking for the 2011 and 2012 coins. Why did NGC just now start grading the bullion coins as (S) or (W)? Why didn't they do that in 1999-2001?
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The only way to tell where a bullion coin came from is if it is still in it's unopened "monster box". It's pretty much just a marketing gimmick, as once the coin is removed from the monster box, you cannot tell which mint it came from. My guess is that in 99 nobody thought of doing it, since it really makes no difference.
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Why did NGC just now start grading the bullion coins as (S) or (W)? Why didn't they do that in 1999-2001?

From 2001 through 2010 all of the bullion pieces were struck at West Point. Midway through 2011 they started striking them at San Francisco as well. The seal on the green monster boxes indicate which mint produced them. If you submitt an unopened monster box to the TPG service they will indicate on the slab which mint struck the coin (S) or (W). If the box has been opened or if less than a box is submitted they will come back with no mintmark indicated. The problem is that now tha the TPG's are doing this most of the graded ASE's are being submitted in monsterboxes. In 2011 it is fairly easy to find all three types, but I could see the no mintmark slabs being a little tough in 2012.
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