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1882 O/S Morgan

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 Posted 01/14/2007  04:53 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lightwind_99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm adding this 1882 O/S morgan. is there something special about this one?
the middle picture is the mint mark.


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 Posted 01/14/2007  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the O/S looks like a VAM-5 but without a better picture that is debatable but VAM-5 is one of the more common ones and it kinda has the same characteristics I can make out on yours
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 Posted 01/15/2007  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have split this out as its own topic since it's a different date. I think the grade on this one is EF40. Keep in mind that the New Orleans coins are difficult to grade because of the softer strikes. I see what appears to be true wear on the hairlines and the eagle's breast and legs. I also see darker areas on the cap that indicate wear to me. That is how I arrived at my grade.
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 Posted 01/15/2007  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ChristinaM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you compare the mintmark and see if it resembles either of these?



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The first is a VAM-4 (O/S Depressed) and the second is a VAM-5 (O/S Broken)
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 Posted 01/16/2007  03:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lightwind_99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think it resembles much on the first picture, I guess it's a VAM-4.
One question, how much do you think it's market value?
any answer is appreciated:)
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quote:
Originally posted by Lightwind_99

i think it resembles much on the first picture, I guess it's a VAM-4.
One question, how much do you think it's market value?
any answer is appreciated:)



Thats very hard to answer without being able to look at the coin in person.It dosn't add a lot of value until it gets into the MS grades. In the lower grades F,VF,EF it adds about $15 to the coin. Now if it was MS64,you could be talking thousands. If in facts it is EF you could expect to sell it for $35 or $40 maybe more or less depending how bad the buyer wants it.
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 Posted 01/17/2007  03:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lightwind_99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you TLS533:)
In my humble opinion I dont think this coin is a candidate for MS, but it would be great if it was:)
another question, if I get this coin certified how much do you think will be the evaluation fee?
i heard PCGS is the number one when it comes to certifying coins.
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 Posted 01/17/2007  04:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1882 O/S, VAMs 3, 4 and 5, were the results of a progression of die cracks, according to Kevin Flynn in his book. He believed the only true overmintmark occurred in 1900. Interesting.
Looking at O/S certified coins available on the 'bay (pcgs, ngc and anacs are all fine), in ngc xf-45 I found one for $60, in ngc au-58 they are going for around $140. NGC attributed only the O/S. The anacs graded coins I found were attributed not only with the O/S but the VAM number as well.
Up to you whether it's worth sending in, it seems anacs would be more than adequate. Hope this helps.
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01/17/2007 05:04 am
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I used to have a NGC VAM-5 O/Broken S and it was labeled as such by NGC, it was a AU-58 and it sold for 70 bucks. And I gotta say Kevin Flynn is totally out of his mind on this one, there is no doubt it is a O/S by looking at the coins, at least to me there is no question
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01/17/2007 07:36 am
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quote:
Originally posted by Bryan1315

And I gotta say Kevin Flynn is totally out of his mind on this one, there is no doubt it is a O/S by looking at the coins, at least to me there is no question


Bryan, I threw this out because I found it interesting and something I had never considered before.
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 Posted 01/17/2007  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes I know, I just couldn't disagree more with his findings. He may be 100% correct but I swear it sure looks like a clear S under the O to me
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