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I would like to sell some of my silver dollars to upgrade and get one of the more expensive years. I want to sell using ebay, but I'm not sure how to do it? and one of my questions is, If the coin isn't selling what you want it to sell for, can you take it of of the market? also does ebay charge you for selling? if so how much.
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 Posted 01/22/2012  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
anyone?
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You can figure on ebay, paypal and mailing fees to cost about 15% by the time its sold. There are different types of listings available and minimum reserve prices you can set to limit losses but they come at a cost. One option is to offer them on this forum in the appropriate section before you go the ebay route. The costs are certainly limited that way. nlp
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 Posted 01/22/2012  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
now when selling on forum... do I need a paypal?
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Not necessarily but sometimes it makes it easier. nlp
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Just another free tip. Which may or may not apply depending on how your PayPal account is setup. I use PayPal for both ebay and non-ebay selling. It isn't an option with ebay thanks to the way the toadmunches have the two systems linked (and ebay owns PayPal) - it automatically is tied to the auction and I automatically have to pay a percentage to PayPal (in addition to ebay listing and final value fees - as nlp stated these fees add up) but when you sell something privately say via this forumn, another, craigslist, or whatever - if the buyer will make a "gift" payment you are not charged a percentage by PayPal. You get the full amount the buyer pays. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't plugged that hole but they haven't yet. I've saved myself hundreds when selling other than on ebay using this option.

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 Posted 01/25/2012  12:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't plugged that hole but they haven't yet. I've saved myself hundreds when selling other than on ebay using this option.


And it's because of people like you, the people that use it the right way will be slapped. Won't be able to send money to my kid in college anymore for free, or to my wife's account, or her to me.. Good job. Theft of services, look it up. Before anyone starts whining about how much they make, or that you pay them enough already, blah, blah, blah...... go shop for your own merchant account and see how Paypal matches up.
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To answer an unanswered question form the OP, Yes, you can end an auction early, you just have to state what the reason is, usually "the item is no longer available for sale" (or something along those lines). I believe that there is a certain time that you cannot "end it early", but you cannot make changes when there is less than 12 hours remaining on the auction.

Note of caution: there is a lot of activity in the last hour (or less) of the auction. Some people wait until the last few seconds to place their bid as a "snipe" to try and get the item for the least amount of money. If you are going to sell on ebay, let it go until it closes, you may (or may not) be surprised. Just remember that the "buyer" dictates what the item will sell for...unless you put a "reserve" price on it, which costs a little extra as well. There ought to be a "Dummies" Book about ebay. No offense, there are just alot of people who are trying to get educated on on-line auctions.

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Scubu, did you know what you were talking about before you just went off? When you use a gift option the person sending the money gets charged the fees, not the person getting the money. That is the right way, it was designed that way. Now why the heck are you sending money to your kid in college with paypal? Put the money in his accound, or send cash, or a check or something else.
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Scubu, did you know what you were talking about before you just went off?


Listen tough guy, if you're going to play the sarcasm card, play it with a full deck.

You're wrong. Gift is free. Period.
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Scubu I'm not a merchant, just someone that helps pull my family through paycheck to paycheck and also feed my hobby. I'm not abusing services or anything else. Believe you me, over the years ebay and PayPal have received more than enough fees for their "services" from me. Earl
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Scubu I'm not a merchant, just someone that helps pull my family through paycheck to paycheck and also feed my hobby. I'm not abusing services or anything else. Believe you me, over the years ebay and PayPal have received more than enough fees for their "services" from me. Earl


Called that one didn't I?

I knew you'd whine try to justify it. You're stealing. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
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If you say so scubu..difference of opinion. No where does it say on PayPal that you can't use gift payments in the way I described. You work for PayPal I guess? If so, I will await my nasty gram from them. Earl
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Paypal Gift is only free if you use a Paypal balance or direct-from-bank method; credit/debit card "Gifts" are charged fees. Either way, if you use it for regular commerce you are not only circumventing (that's a polite word instead of the one I want to use) Paypal's ability to earn a profit (and they're not abnormally profitable from a business standpoint), but you're also eliminating your recourse for a transaction gone bad.

Paypal offers zero protection for a "Gift" transaction. You're on your own.
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No where does it say on PayPal that you can't use gift payments in the way I described.


Wow. You've got to be kidding me.

If you can't follow it by the payment type names themselves (Goods, services, gift, etc... duh.) I'll point it out for you, gift is on the personal tab, this is from the user agreement that you agreed to....


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"Personal Payment" means amounts sent between two individuals (not to or from a business) without a purchase. Examples of Personal Payments include sending a gift to a friend or paying a friend back for your share of a lunch bill.


Cmon' you can come up with a different story now right... to justify your not stealing?
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Scubu, thank you for pointing that out to me. You may choose not to believe it (since you've already called me a thief repeatedly), but I was unaware that was in the agreement and hadn't viewed it in many years. I had to go and find it on their site and view it myself. It is quite clear and also has the following:

4. Receiving Money.
4.1 Receiving Personal Payments. If you are selling goods or services, you may not ask the buyer to send you a Personal Payment for the purchase. If you do so, PayPal may remove your ability to accept Personal Payments.

As such, I won't use gift payments as a form of payment anymore. Perhaps that will make you happy.

I'm sure you are also fine with the fact that in years past I had a personal account and was fine with working within the limits of that ($500 monthly limit, no credit card payment reciepts). Ebay/PayPal forced me to upgrade to Premier and in so doing pay a percentage on every payment received not just credit cards. I'm sure you are fine with the strong arm tactics they've used over the years.

In a perfect society you could go elsewhere, but there is no elsewhere. After they stopped "EXPLICITLY" allowing all payments related to guns and ammunition a similar service "GunPal" started up but it turned out to be a farce. I'm sure if PayPal (and hence ebay) knew of all the thousands of firearms/gun/ammo related transactions that were run through them each day "discretely" they would refund all such funds and fees rendered immediately, don't you think?

And just for future reference (if you so care). You can make your point and bring others around to your way of thinking easier - if you aren't such an butt about it. (That's funny, I didn't type butt).. :)

Earl
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