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1883 Liberty Nickel, Is This An Over Date? / Repunched Date?

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 Posted 01/23/2012  10:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Please take a look at this 1883 Liberty Nickle. I'm seeing either a Over Date or a Repunched Date. I sometimes tend to get to much into, wanting it to be the variety that I can use some fresh eyes, and if possible some seasoned eyes. I'm just getting into this series, so they'res a lot for me to learn. Here's the Pickup Points I'm seeing starting Left to right.
On the left upper side of the one you can see a previous numeral 1 going down to the lower right side (it pokes out the bottom right line of the 1)
Next is the first 8, inside of 8,
more convincing is the next 8 most obvious is the line that comes off the lower left loup of the 8 then goes up, They're is more but I'll see if anyone else picks up on it.
Now the last three is a little difficult to see (I believe because all the wear) but coming off the lower left serif is the outside of bottom left hand side of a 2, the most obvious is the line going straight down the inner lower loup, also looks like something coming out of the right top of 3 and center of 3 also along the bottom.
Now after looking at this for a while more and more is coming out at me. I don't know if Its my mind or what......PLEASE HELP.
And whats bothering me most is the wear and tear of the coin.
Sorry for all the pics but a lot of what I'm seeing is very light.
Please let me know if you would like to see a pic from a certain angle. I'll take it. Have more work to do when it come to photos. But hope these portray what I'm seeing.
Thanks so much for any and all help.



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 Posted 01/23/2012  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry MODS I should of posted in the Classic Variety Area. It hit me just as I went back into it after I posted. Sorry about that
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This one is confusing as the 3 in your date looks just like FS-1301 in the Cherry Pickers Guide. However FS-1301 also has the base of a 1 protruding from the lower left side of the first 8.

CherryPickers Guide is not all inclusive by any stretch so based on the similarity of the 3 in your pic and that of the 3 in the guide I would say it is a repunched date just not FS-1305.

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I think you have a repunched date. But I agree, Cherrypicker's guide is very incomplete and the Liberty nickel series is really ripe for discovery of new varieties. I have discovered a few new ones myself.
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Sorry MODS I should of posted in the Classic Variety Area. It hit me just as I went back into it after I posted. Sorry about that
No problem. I moved it for you.
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 Posted 01/24/2012  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats also what I'm looking in, Cherry Pickers Fith Edition Volume 1.
Alright here's some better descriptions of what I'm seeing. FS-05-1883-301 (013) Top of pg 261 an over date.
I see the 2 coming out of the left side of the three even the upper tail part of the 2 is visible in close Mag in the bottom of the serif, then you can make out the inside line of whats pictured left hand side of second eight. But the most convincing is the same spot where that inner 2 is just off the lower serif of the 3 you can see the line come out from the three then curve up going back through the tip of lower serif of three. I'm going to use Photo shop and try and highlight what I'm seeing, on a few examples.

But on another note something thats bothering me is FS-05-1883-303-(03.2)
Just becasue it could be a coincidence is the similar top part of the 2 coming out of the top of the lower three end. Between the open spaces of the 3 is the top part of a 2. But that could just be the inner middle part of the 2 playing tricks on me.
I'm going to have to play with the color of the photo to see if I can get the lines to really stand out. I know the wear more likely cleaning wore most of the evidence off.
Thanks for all your help, Gonna keep on trucking with this one until a wheel comes off or pay dirt is hit. I know its something..... Dun dun dhhhaaa lol
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 Posted 01/28/2012  04:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still at it, Can't reduce photos right now, All I'm getting is Ducks? But The 2 is there under the 3. It looks like the coin was struck a few times with a Two, I can make out the corner of the 2 coming back into the 3 at the bottom left serif, then I pick it back up right in the center of the 3 as a rectangle, Just up from that another inside upper neck of 2 goes along the inside upper serif of three. But I see two points where the 2 started from. The clearer one is out side the upper serif, of 3. Then just where the out side upper serif ends and the curve starts, I can make the upper left hand edge of a 2 sticking out.
Now back to where the corner of the 2 sticks out the left side lower serif of 3, look inside the lower loop of 3 and you can make out the end point of a 2 but it looks like this
___/ \
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Now I also see a smaller top part of a 2 sitting on top of the lower serif of the 3,

And then once again I see the top half of a large 2 under the right side of the 3.
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01/28/2012 04:38 am
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 Posted 01/28/2012  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I seriously doubt it is an overdate because there are no 1882 V nickels (Except for a pattern die or two.) The 1883 logotype seems to be the same one as that used for the 1883 Shield nickels. So I would expect any 1882 logotype would also be the same as that used on the Shield nickel. If they did an 1883/2 on the Shield nickel I would expect to see more evidence because the spacing of the digits is considerably different between the two years.

I'm not really seeing a repunched date either. I would wonder if possibly there was something defective with that particular punch.
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01/28/2012 10:08 am
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