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It's funny that there is another barbarous post, because I have one of my own before I even knew there was one. The seller has not identified the coin correctly. It's identified as a Quintillus. It looks like a barb to me, but this one I have not seen before and perhaps worthy of some study?  Let me know what you guys think about it. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Almost forgot. It's 15.5mm, 2.4g.
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2100 Posts |
That's a great "Emperor playing pool" reverse type.
What an interesting Barb.
Regards,
Martin
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Nice! I like the primitive details, and I'm guessing the condition is close to when struck.
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Your correct - its barbarous and is definitely not a Quintillus - I think thats the seller trying his luck. It is an interesting one, the bust looks clean shaven and the text on the obverse seems to be gibberish, its unlikely it was based on anybody real. The reverse is possibly based on Diana as seen on this Postumus walking right.  I think I prefer maridvnvms explanation though  |
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Gil-galad- Awesome coin!
Everyone- I have a question about the value of barbarous coins in general. How are they valued? What determines the value of particular barbs? Are there many collectors of barbs?
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Pillar of the Community
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at first glance it looks like tetricus iI with MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy
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MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy Very possibly jesse. I was also wondering if the left hand was actually part hand and part cornucopia. Quote:
How are they valued? What determines the value of particular barbs? Are there many collectors of barbs? They are very hard to value as not many people actively collect them. I used to but gave up because of a particularly persistent arch-rival on ebay, he never missed an auction and all we were doing was bumping the prices up by bidding against each other! Generally the crazier designs bring the highest values but its by no means certain, most barbs are of Gallic Emperor Tetricus and have figures on the reverse so a premium is added to anything that does not fall into those categories. Coins that show errors also carry a premium, mis-spellings, incorrect obverse to reverse, items facing the wrong way etc. The same coin could sell for £1 on Monday but £30 on Tuesday, its a bit of a crap-shoot buying and selling them. Edited by bobbyhelmet
01/24/2012 3:25 pm
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The story continues. I've decided to try and purchase the coin. Not for $35 as he wanted, but a lower price which would be $10. I have no idea how to price the coin fairly so I just offered to purchase at $10. What do you guys think about my offer?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I like that coin--I would buy it for $10. Hope you get it!  |
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I doubt the seller will take $10 but that is closer to my evaluation of the coin than $35. We are currently in a time of amateur dealers who pay too much for poor coins and figure they should sell them for at least three times what they paid. They will sell some coins but not all. As a dealer you have to decide when you cut your losses and sell mistakes for half what you paid or if you should just wait for someone new to the hobby that thinks anything that old is a museum piece.
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Well, I have good news. I clearly proved to the seller that the coin is not a Quintillus and that he would not get $35 for it. He agreed with my price and tacked on $1 to it for postage for a total of $11. I will be getting it as soon as it arrives, I believe.
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$11 doesn't sound bad for the coin IMO.
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$11 is good . Its a nicely stylised barb. I'd been thinking about this coin as it has an unusual feature. I think it could have been based on a coin from the Britannic Empire. This is my opinion and others may disagree but your coins bust has a very long neck and a small head - this is something not very common on barbs in general but very common on Britannic coins. It was a peculiarity that emerged during a decade or so of isolation from the rest of the Empires coinage. Perhaps something like this (Carausius) was used as a guide:  Notice the long (but fatter on this example) neck, certainly a possibility. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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$11--well done! That's an interesting piece, and I suspect it shows very little actual wear. |
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I initially thought it could be a Probus imitation with the long neck. It could also be a Carausius imitation as the reverse looks pretty close.
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Posted 01/24/2012 2:27 pm
