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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If you saw these coins offered for sale for the same price, which would you prefer? What differences do you see?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'd pick the second mainly because of the color and it's surface isn't kind of corroded like the first. But the first is still a nice-looking coin and I think I see what looks like silvering on it  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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What differences do you see? None - apart from surface differences - they are either the same coin at different times or two very, very similar flans from the same dies. I dont think I prefer either one over the other. Edited by bobbyhelmet
01/30/2012 6:09 pm
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 United States
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They look like the same coin. The top one still has some silvering, while the bottom has the silvering removed. The second is more appealing to me.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Nice "pop quiz" there  it looks like a die match to me too. I prefer the second for the contrast of relief to the fields. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Number 2!:) |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'd offer the seller a reduced price and take them both.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have to agree with everyone else. I see no difference. In fact, I would say they are the same coin, just one has been cleaned. I think the first has silvering and in the second image the silvering has been removed. Even the flan shape is the same. And, I too prefer the second over the first. That's my 2 cents worth anyhow.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Very good! They are the same coin before and after cleaning. The white stuff was not silver but light colored encrustations. The second is perhaps a little lower grade but the remaining detail is easier to see so I prefer it.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 that explains the perfect die match |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes, much more than die match because the flan and striking weaknesses match as well. If these were not the same coin it would be certain evidence that the coins were cast fakes. Hand struck ancient coins can match in terms of die but not often do you see a pair that are off center in the same exact way and have flaws that match exactly. That level of match requires being cast from a master coin and the Romans did not do that.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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All jokes aside, I had a feeling they were both the same coin. Although, I'm wondering if it's best to leave it as it was with the silver or clean it more. To my mind, it seems like it would be best to give it minimal cleaning and leave the silver on it, if possible. I have seen a few sellers on ebay that were using the same photo for another coin more than a few times. I thought that they were either using the same photo, or it was a fake. It seems like it's hard to tell if there are cast bubbles. |
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The white stuff was not silver but light colored encrustations Gil-galad: Although most of us thought it was silvering, Doug pointed out that it was "white stuff" on the surface. I'm not sure how I would feel about removing a very thin patchy silvering. I still think the coin looks better once cleaned. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Right, I misread that. Thanks for pointing that out. Yeah, since it's not silver then yes, cleaning sound appropriate.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yeah., when I first saw it, I noticed how remarkably similar the details looked. I just figured that maybe by chance these two were produced back to back with the same does. Kind of out there I know, but who would have known right?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If these were not the same coin it would be certain evidence that the coins were cast fakes. I really should have caught that...I was not expecting it. |
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Posted 01/30/2012 5:52 pm
