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Do Not Use Rocco1142 On Ebay. **updated With Pics**

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 Posted 02/02/2012  06:18 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Freedom to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/22093769041....m1497.l2649

Do not use this vendor. Slab has been tampered with and coin has two black gauges not visible in his picture, on the obverse.

They will not accept returns on PCGS or NGC coins? They
did say return it which I intended to do but now I am out double shipping....

Why can't a vendor be honest, it is enough to drive you
crazy. Avoid at all costs!
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02/03/2012 06:15 am
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Why would anyone use that weird green lighting?
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 Posted 02/02/2012  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Why can't a vendor be honest, it is enough to drive you
crazy. Avoid at all costs!

HONEST? Your talking about ebay. If a vendor was honest on ebay, they would kick them off.
I never use ebay so I miss those things.
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 Posted 02/02/2012  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afclassic87 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Open a claim with PayPal/eBay!
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 Posted 02/02/2012  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No sense getting burned on someone who will not rectify the situation.
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02/02/2012 09:29 am
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 Posted 02/02/2012  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's see a photo of the black gouges.
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 Posted 02/02/2012  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinstar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
as usual carl is right again--I agree--there are better deals than ebay
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 Posted 02/02/2012  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Freedom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Let's see a photo of the black gouges.


I will scan when I get home. Looks nothing like his picture, I believe he used photoshop and NGC does not
have the picture of the coin for that cert number.

The slab has been tampered with. They will accept a return
if I pay the shipping. I am filing as well.
Edited by Freedom
02/02/2012 10:36 am
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 Posted 02/02/2012  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cajunlady0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would file a claim with Paypal and ebay stating the coin was not as described. The final outcome will be that the seller will just re-sell the coin to someone who will just accept the blemishes and not return it again.

I would get a fixed number in my head (if I wanted to keep it) that would make me feel warm and fuzzy inside and approach the seller with that amount. That way, you got a good deal and he did not get bad ratings on the transaction. The seller might just want to refund you some money to keep the deal intact.

You never know, this whole thing might turn out to be a sweet deal for you......if you are willing to negotiate it.
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 Posted 02/02/2012  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beaglebailey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to come to the defense of ebay sellers even though I am not one. I will be the first to admit that there a lot of real bad ones on ebay, sellers that you cannot trust and are dishonest, take bad pictures, have no refund policy and don't stand behind the coins they sell, etc. like the one portrayed in this thread.

However, I have found other sellers on ebay that I totally trust. I have bought many coins from these sellers and have not had any bad experiences. They try to give honest answers to any questions and if you are still not satisfied with coin they will accept returns no questions asked.

So I don't think we should paint too wide a brush and imply that all ebay sellers are dishonest. IMHO.
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I have to come to the defense of ebay sellers even though I am not one. I will be the first to admit that there a lot of real bad ones on ebay, sellers that you cannot trust and are dishonest, take bad pictures, have no refund policy and don't stand behind the coins they sell, etc. like the one portrayed in this thread.

However, I have found other sellers on ebay that I totally trust. I have bought many coins from these sellers and have not had any bad experiences. They try to give honest answers to any questions and if you are still not satisfied with coin they will accept returns no questions asked.

So I don't think we should paint too wide a brush and imply that all ebay sellers are dishonest. IMHO.


Really wasn't implying all ebay sellers are bad, I have several I buy from on a regular basis. This one is the first one in over 700 transactions that hosed me, kinda took me by surprise.

Filed a claim at 9:42 this morning, got an e-mail at 9:57 stating my case was closed and I had received a full refund including the shipping charges.

I have asked for an address to send the coin to but so far have not heard back from them.....Just waitin sittin here on the Dock O The Bay.....
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 Posted 02/02/2012  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Quick turn-around time! Must have been obvious, better customer support, or possibly a "new" person behind the customer service desk. Anyway, good on you for not laying down and taking it!
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 Posted 02/02/2012  11:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Freedom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am wondering if a person who was new this collecting would have just stuck this coin away as part of their collection or did what I did?

I think they prey on beginning collectors, not all, just this guy.
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Just to humor me - something I see in the seller's pic - look for a dot to the right of the designer's initial on the obverse.
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I am not seeing it from the picture, when I scan it I will post it here.
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 Posted 02/02/2012  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I would get a fixed number in my head (if I wanted to keep it) that would make me feel warm and fuzzy inside and approach the seller with that amount.

Since negotiating after purchase is a common hustle, honest dealers will usually insist on full refund with full return only, no partial refund "adjustments".

Of course, there are red flags in this case, so anything's possible.

I've even had a seller make a refund and PayEnemy also make a full refund. If I didn't return one amount, the seller would have been sol.
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