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1980 1 Cent Doubling

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 Posted 02/03/2012  01:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Dvereckis to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Looking thgough more cents and came across coin. I'm still relativly new at the error/damage game and was wondering what causes this effect.
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While still looking through my 1980 cents I came across two more error/damage coins. The first I can clearly see is a minor clip with the same damage present on both sides. The second however has me baffled is it PMD or some something else? most of the coin has very good detail but the one area has almost no detail. Also the reverse side of the coin appears to be in perfect shape.

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This is Machine Doubling. Very likely that the coin shifted when it was being pressed, notice that Elizabeth II has the doubling on the top portion of the lettering, much the same as Regina. So the coin moved in a downward fashion in relation to the first strike. It could have moved from sticking slightly to the die or by having some debris under the coin or the die could have shifted slightly.



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Its intersting to understand why a coin ends up the way it does. Unfortunatly it must not be rare as I just found two more that are very similar.
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The repeating of the error is what interests me, trying to find the evolution of the error from the beginning to the end result. Even the smallest die break can, in the end, turn into some big noticeable to the eye die breaks.

With the coins you have found it might have been from a machine that wasn't on a proper maintainenace schedule. A loose bolt could have caused the press to shift just ever so slightly. The die may have worn out as well causing as repeating shift in the coins.

This is slightly off topic but its a good article about Worn dies vs Worn coins. I have found a few nickels with worn dies after reading it.

http://www.celatorsart.com/worndies.html
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since youre going through 1980s keep your eyes open for a double 0 in the date :)
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Is this the double 0 you are refering to or is it normally more pronounced. I had to take two pics to show the full extent of the doubling.
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That's about right, in pic 2 you can see it clearly. IF you want to see another pic of the same doubling:

http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...nt-1965-2012
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It is easier to see the coin with a illuminated 40x loupe, with a still shot it is diffucult to show the detail. However that does apperar to be exteremly close. Is this a varity?
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 Posted 02/03/2012  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DvntMstr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
second pic looks like double 80 to me nice find
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