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1878 P Double Legs? & Whats All The Green From?

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 Posted 02/03/2012  3:13 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add allcoinsnewbie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,

Using 60x can't really tell if anything is doubled because of what looks like extra metal around the legs, stars and
letters.

To the naked eye the "extra metal" looks green.

I'm guessing someone ruined this coin cleaning around
all these things.

Still wondering if the legs are doubled though.

Thanks for looking and responding.

1878-P--Double-Legs?--&-Whats-All-The-Green-From?

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 Posted 02/03/2012  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes the legs look doubled to me, it may be a VAM-33 haven't took a good look and am watching the Heritage auction and once its over if no one has confirmed the VAM I will take a look for you
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 Posted 02/03/2012  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok I take that back, I believe you have a VAM-81. Look at the top of the leaves of the wreath on the Reverse for this lump caused by a die clash. I think I can see it in your images but its really hard to tell by your photographs
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These are more pictures of the VAM-81 attributes and you can compare them also
1878-P--Double-Legs?--&-Whats-All-The-Green-From?
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I am not 100% sure on the VAM-81 but I would need some clear pictures of the areas outlined in these pictures. Your pictures are very hard to see any attributes at all but it looks to be a Long Nock so its either a 7TF B1 reverse or a 7/0 TF version. I can't even tell if the leaf is disconnected in the pictures you provided (which it would need to be a VAM-81) but I think it does have the die clash on the wreath and if so the VAM-81 is the only B1 Reverse with that feature
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 Posted 02/03/2012  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allcoinsnewbie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks so much Bryan,

I'm checking out 33 & 81 as well as I can with all the fried metal in the way.
Can't take more pics until tomorrow, but do appreciate your time and efforts.

Later
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This is a typical question and with poor photos's to assume a VAM...I think Bryan has done a wondferful job here...
still some close-ups of importent areas will reveal the answer...G
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here's more pictures

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It's a 7/8 TF Weak VAM 33. Here's the smoking gun ..


1878-P--Double-Legs?--&-Whats-All-The-Green-From?

The arrow is pointing to that lump of metal underneath the olive branch. This is also the reverse shared with the KING, VAM 44. But the incomplete ear-fill makes it a VAM 33. See VAMWorld for other key diagnostics.

P.S. - That green gunk is PVC damage and it appears to have damaged the underlying metal surface. Not much can be done about it at this point.
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02/04/2012 09:46 am
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33 was my first guess as well and after I see the additional pictures it definitely rules out the VAM-81. The legs is what made me think of the 33 first because they are clearly wider than the normal legs but was on my cell phone and couldn't really see allot of the features and thought I saw the clash mark on the wreath but with the additional pictures I see its not there
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 Posted 02/04/2012  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allcoinsnewbie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You CCF people are so helpful. I am grateful to have found you.

Thank you
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