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35% Off Center 1873 Indian (Fake?)

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I saw this on the bay and thought it looked suspicious even before reading the seller's description.

so, fake or real?

pics are the seller pics, and were not modified.

35%-Off-Center-1873-Indian-Fake?

35%-Off-Center-1873-Indian-Fake?

text from the auction, verbatim.

this is what I believe
the coin dealer it weigh said 3.8 grams and all I can go by
its authentic is the coin dealer said it
looks like it is real. this is all I know
about the coin it looks like when is was hit
is mite of used more metal than it should have
whene I match it up to a Indian Head penny the one
i have is a little bigger in size I can see this happening
you know it is a die error anything can happen that what
i think. why would someone go throw the trouble to make
this coin and than wrap it in a old coin wheat roll. don't
make sence to me. I really think it is real.
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oh no, I forgot to include pics!
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I don't like it.

And 3.8 grams? That is more than a half a gram over the maximum legal tolerance.
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Date numbers looks wrong too especially the "18" Some one had a lot of time to make this. I think it's fake too.
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Run away as quickly as you can!
I just compared this coin to the "Longacre's Ledger" on off-center IHCs. A counterfeit 1866 OC is shown there that looks remarkably close to this coin. As noted, the weight is totally wrong. Then, look at the rims of the planchet. IHC off-center planchets don't have that wire rim. The denticles and die shoulder looks wrong too.
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I share the same concerns as the other posters. The first thing that caught my eye was the date and that does not look like the correct style.
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...neat RMO (round metallic object) none the less. I am a newbie when it comes to errors though.
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i had worked out a deal with the seller that I could send it off to ANACS and had full return privileges if they found it fake. I was mostly interested in figuring it out and documenting the fake. Anyhow, someone outbid me. They're stuck with a lemon.
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Has that Chinese look. Good for you.
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A dangerous fake.
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Looks good at a quick glance but...
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