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Question For Those Of You With 70 70 Albums

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I am starting a 7070 and have a couple of questions. Some of the coins I plan on placing in the album are slabbed. I have plans of upgrading the coins from time to time when I have sufficient funds. Rather than throwing one together quickly with lower-grade coins I have plans of doing this throughout the span of a couple years, buying a coin or so every couple months. I already have the coins that are affordable in mint state. It appears the classic head large cent will be the most difficult, correct?

Basically what I want to know is with the coins I remove from slabs if I take high-quality pictures of them in the slabs before I remove them will this make much of a difference when it comes time to sell, or will it still bring the price of a standard raw coin?
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 Posted 02/08/2012  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do take the pictures both in and out of the slab and keep the little paper that says the grade. As far as the reselling question thats going to be up to the buyer. If you can provethat it is the exact coin then I dont think you will have any issue with getting the graded price.
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I'm pretty sure that a deslabbed coin will always have the same value as a raw coin.

If you're buying for the sake of investment, get the highest grade slabbed coins you can buy.

If you're buying for the sake of collecting (i.e., to fill your 7070 album), I'd recommend getting the best quality raw coins you can afford. The tricky part is when you get to the rarer coins that cost big bucks for decent grades, like the early large cents and Seated Liberty dollars. I chose to get raw coins from dealers I trusted rather than getting slabbed coins.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Landon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There isn't a coin dealer within a 100 miles of me, trusted or not. So I am pretty much limited to the internet, especially when it comes to the more expensive stuff. I have been buying ANACS and ICG coins at a discount with plans of cracking them out in the near future. I was just wondering if taking good pictures so I could prove it was assigned a certain grade and problem-free would be worth the effort.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, it certainly wouldn't hurt. As a buyer, it wouldn't make any difference to me, but as you can see from what Coindog said, everybody is different.
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For some items, such as the Trade dollar, I think you may give up a bit once you've removed it from the slab, sometimes even if it has distinctive marks that prove it was indeed the coin pictured in the slab. For others, it won't matter much, if at all.

From the buying perspective, my Motto Seated Liberty dollar was once slabbed and broken out by the previous owner. Distinctive marks proved beyond a doubt that it was the coin I found in a database slabbed as VF-30 as the owner stated. That was comforting. For Seated dollars, I think there is a bit of a premium associated with slabbed. I bought the one mentioned above raw, for less than what I thought it would go for and less than I was willing to pay. So there's one data point for you. The seller said he was realizing less than he expected for all his type coins and attributed it to having them raw, with no previous pictures or paperwork.

For me personally, it's more rewarding having them in the Dansco. Whatever you enjoy better is the way to go.
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I cracked many coins out for my 7070 album and I do not expect that the pictures of the coins in the slabs will make much difference when it comes time to sell. I just taped the labels on the inside of the back cover after I cracked them out. And I have to say the classic head large cent was definitely the hardest coin for me to find in problem free AU or above condition. I found allot of nice looking coins that had small problems but problem free is hard to find in anything AU and above, when you do you have to pay for it usually also
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I've done the same thing as Brian for my 7070. Honestly, it depends if your more of collector, or investor. If you have plans to resell the collection someday and your buying high grade early type coins. Best to keep them in the slabs, as there is no guarantee the coins will reslab the same grade. However, as a collector, it was worth the risk to me just to have the beautiful album display. I also put the stickers on the back cover:
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If you plan to be a "cracker", you can lessen your risk by purchasing -inbetweener- graded coins, for example XF-45 or AU-55. If you crack out a 45, and then it reslabs at 40 later on, then you haven't lost much. However, many coins jump 2 or 3 fold in value to the next full grade. So if you buy a 50, crack her out and it later reslabs at 45; then you could take a huge hit(depending on the coin of course). This doesn't apply to every coin, but I think it's worth considering for the very expensive coins, and could universally lower your risk.

The Classic Head Large Cent was the most expensive coin in my set, and I bought it in ANACS XF-45, and cringed a bit when I cracker her out...



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7070-- its a tough album--been working on mine a while now still have alot of holes to fill... good luck
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Honestly, it depends if your more of collector, or investor.
I agree. I am a collector and have no plans to ever sell my coins. I have yet to buy a slabbed coin, but if (when) I do, I will have no problem cracking the coin our and putting it in my album.
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Good luck to you Landon. It can be an incredibly fun journey filling that album. I started one then had to take a good hard look at myself. I realized I did not have the knowledge to judge whether a Seated dollar was vf or xf etc. and that can make a big difference in price. This is just one example were I felt it was better to leave it to the experts and now only buy the more expensive to me ( 500.00 and up coins )in slabs. I really admire people like Bryan1315 and others who can make that call. I have not been on the forum for sometime and came back to get a little inspiration for my type set by looking at Bryans 7070 and hope you will post pictures as you start to fill your album up. Again, I say good luck and happy hunting to you,
Jim
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