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Fake Canadian Junk Silver?

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Hi everyone, I was wondering if you could help me.

Do you know or have ever encountered counterfeit Canadian junk silver which has no numismatic value?

I'm asking this question because I have a 1968 50% silver quarter in barely circulated condition.

According to the internet it is supposed to weigh 5.83 grams but the one I found coin roll hunting weighs 5.65 grams. I'm using a scale which is accurate up to 0.01 grams.

Is this normal?

Thank you for your help.
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does it stick to a magnet?
.18 grams is not much of a difference
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does it stick to a magnet?
.18 grams is not much of a difference
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It could be normal wear. Or maybe someone is intentionally shaving a little silver off of large numbers of junk silver coins?
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No, it doesn't stick to a magnet. Sometimes I find coins that weigh a little more than normal and sometimes a little less. I'm going to acquire several junk silver quarters tomorrow and I just don't want to get burned.
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Chances are its just a bit of wear.
I have close to $1000 FV in junk silver in which I have noticed under, dead on, and over many times.
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Do you know or have ever encountered counterfeit Canadian junk silver which has no numismatic value?


Counterfeit 1939 dollar is one example, which you can sometimes find in dealer's junk bins. While counterfeit, it is still .800 silver or better...
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I have never seen or encountered a 1939 Fake... although I am aware of tons of 1945, 47 and 1948s.
but the 48s, my favorite beef, is another story.
MMtold me some time ago he had found a 36.....
beats me...why anyone would do a 39 with .800 if it is just as easy to do a 48, 47 or 45....

CG
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H, ask Mike about those sometime as well... that is only the tip of the iceberg...
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37,38,39,45,46,47, 48.......all have been faked. My research has led me to believe that the 1939 were the trial dies made to get the obverse "to a high level" of acceptance which proved successful as I have seen and own fakes in TPG holders from both north and south of the border.
As for original question, almost all pre-48 silver has been counterfeited.
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Thank you for all your help everyone!
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Why fake the lower-priced coin? To draw less attention and to get that faster buck. You bet the 1948 will be scrutinized while the lower dollars will be just "junk".
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IT should be the wear that causes the loss.
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A 68 junk quarter is worth like $3. It would take a lot of fake quarter sales to cover the cost of a coin die, a press, the metals, etc. Until you started making profit. I would assume it's real. I would only worry about coins that cost significantly more than their weight.
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