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 Posted 02/27/2012  09:51 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add carleroo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am in the process of selling some coins on ebay (first time) and was wondering if I need to fill in a customs form if shipping abroad, and if so, what to write down. Obviously is a coin, but do I want to declare the actual value? I'm wondering specifically about higher value coins. If I indicate a higher value will that draw unneeded attention and cause the seller to pay extra duty?

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 Posted 02/27/2012  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You need to fill in the customs form.Can't advise you to do something illegal.
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You need to fill out the customs form. I have had a bad experience with a seller on ebay for a set of cufflinks that I ordered. They overstated the value, just in case something happened to the....they wanted to make sure that I was covered.

UPS wanted to charge my $24 in customes fees on and item that I paid $14 for. After debating with UPS and providing proof of the actual cost of the transaction, they completely reversed the fee. They said that they don't charge duty on items less than $20. Although the seller had my best interest in mind, it ended up being a huge headache for me.

My suggestion is to notify in your ebay listing that customs fees may apply and are to be paid by the buyer, and that the actual selling price will be on the customs form.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carleroo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. Do you know if Americans have to pay duty on coins?
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 Posted 02/27/2012  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carleroo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. This makes good sense.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add elkslayer132 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I send everything registered mail and put on custom form "Metal sample" or "Numismatic item" And the value at which the person paid for coin in case I have to file claim for being lost.I have sent coins all over the world at prices up to $1000 and never had any problems anywhere.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canuck1us to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have purchased hundreds of coins from Canada and not once had to pay duty. Some of them are just shipped in regular padded envelopes in the mail. Some have been marked as numismatic materials.

UPS seems to be more problematic though when it comes to cross border shipping than USPA/Canada Post.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add middross to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not 100% sure about this, but I'm pretty sure that anything is subject to duty fees. From my experience UPS is more likely to charge duty fees that Canada Post is. If duty fees are charged, Canada Post's duty fees are usually significantly less then UPS's are.

Again, I'm not 100% sure. If you have questions about duty fees Canada Post is a good place to start. Their website has a FAQ page, as well as contact #'s if your question isn't answered on the FAQ page.

Best of luck with your listing.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carleroo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good advice. Thanks everyone. We'll see how it goes. So far I have a couple of coins starting at 99ยข and no bids so far (sigh). So if they end up selling for a paltry amount to someone outside the country, duty fees will not be something they have to worry about. I do have one item that has a higher bid, but only because I put on a minimum starting bid...
Again, thanks.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canuck1us to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe there is any duty on U.S. or Canada coins or notes going in either direction.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add middross to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Selling on ebay auction style, you will find that many buyers wait until close to the deadline before bidding. An item that has only a couple of bids, may get a lot of action within thelast 5-6 hours.

Keep positive, and if you have nice coins people will usually bid on them.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carleroo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the encouragement. It does seem a bit chancy. I was looking at the closed items under ebay search to get an idea of value and was surprised to see similar, or just about identical items had a range of results. One item started out at $0.99 and then had 15 or so bids, finally selling at hundreds of dollars. Another coin, similar date, condition, etc. had a minimum bid of $25 and no one bid on it at all. Does it depend on who's looking or does the bidding create a senses of frenzy that gets people to bid more than the item may even be worth?
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 Posted 02/27/2012  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
UPS from canada to the usa there is no customs charges for anything under $200. in reverse from the USA to canada UPS will ding you $25-$40 (learned that the hard way and the item ending up being more expensive that if I had bought it locally). as far as I know UPS and fedex will NOT insure coins.

I've found Canada Post to be cheaper, plus insurable and trackable. might take a few extra days compared to courier but I have yet to be charged any fees (tax or handling etc).

when I fill out the customs forms I usually describe the item as 'collectable token', just seems to be a little less tempting for theft than COIN writen in big bold letters. if ever shipping loose coins in bulk wrap them up really tightly so they dont gingle around, again, no need to attrack attention.

ebay, like others have said, most of the action is in the last few minutes (for people are filtering "ending soonest" as their search criteria and trying to snipe something). I have also had items that I didnt want to sell too cheap and started the bids at a (fair) mid value price and got no bids. re-listed at 99 cents starting and attracted a lot of attention. key is to get the most people looking at it as you can. a lot of people also filter 'cheapest first' and might not even get to your listing if you are at $25 and there are 1,000 auctions below your starting bid. you can always add a 'buy it now price' and still start at 99 cents (i believe the buy it now option turns off after someone bids the first bid)

good luck

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I have sold quite a few items on ebay and the results are all over the map. I have sold essentially identical cents out of rolls and seen them go for $1 and for over $10. After a few unhappy experiences I now always put in a minimum bid that is the least amount I would accept without feeling undue pain. But putting too high a start price can kill all interest in an item. On the other hand, I have had common ICCS MS65 cents go for $0.99, which was just about barf inducing!
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 Posted 02/27/2012  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carleroo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. This has been a good education for me. I appreciate the advice. I suppose it is an auction, and like any auction you hope some billionaire has his eye on your item and is willing to pay anything to get it. And then again, maybe not.

I will continue to experiment. I haver some items at 99 and others with a minimum, and will see what happens. I'm really not in it to make a big business out of this, but rather just get something back so I can use the money to buy other things I've developed an interest in. And try not to take things too seriously. After all some of these coins I didn't even know I had...
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Quote:
I have purchased hundreds of coins from Canada and not once had to pay duty.
I have also bought from Canada, Australia, and Europe, and never paid any duty on even a higher-end coin.
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