Authenic Or Counterfeit/Fake Large Cent

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OrDirtDevil Valued Member United States 214 Posts	Posted 01/25/2007 10:57 pm I got this Large cent about two years ago in a mix of coins, token and war metals off ebay. In the mix was 3-WW1 Russian metals (authenicated), 2 morgan dollars(1890-o and 1921), 1714 Mexican Dubloom (haven't done anything with it yet),about 50-60 commems and tokens, sold a few of these for coin money and this 1819 Large Cent. I did take the coin into a dealer a few weeks after getting it and he said it was real but won't tell me anything about its variety. He also offered me $45 cash or $65 in coins for it. I bet he didn't look at it more then about 3 seconds, laid it down on the counter and kind of scrugged it off until I picked it up and started picking out some supplies I needed. Then he asked if I wasn't going to sell it to him. I said I thought I would hoold on to it awhile. Funny thing is I can't find a match for it in any of my coins books. I don't see copy on it anywhere but it looks just to mint to me to be in a mix of grab bag coins. I have showed it to a few freinds that seem to think it real but haven't really dealt with alot of large cents. So I figures some of you eagle eye collectors can tell me what you think about it. Doesn't seem to have any wear on it at all and even has some of the copper luster to it. Here is a shot of the obverse and reserve. Hope someone can tell me something about it as it sure doesn't seem to match any of the varieties in my books as far as her face goes. Report this Post to the Staff

Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 01/25/2007 11:19 pm I am no expert but it looks real and looks like it could be a proof coin, I will do some searching and see if I can find anything to match yours Report this Post to the Staff
Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 01/25/2007 11:36 pm I made a horrible mistake, there is no way it can be real and be a braided hair Large cent with that date so it has to be fake or some sort of a pattern but that many years ahead that is doubtful also. A 1819 should be a matron head large Cent and look like this one http://www.coinfacts.com/large_cent...arieties.htm so I would have to say you have yourself a copy of some sort just not familiar with where it could have been minted, and since there was never a 1819 braided hair large cent I guess you could call this a fantasy piece instead of a copy Edited by Bryan1315 01/25/2007 11:40 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 01/25/2007 11:55 pm Definitely fake, no question about it. Sorry. Report this Post to the Staff
tights24 Pillar of the Community United States 2254 Posts	Posted 01/26/2007 06:28 am If it is fake, I guess the question is does it still hold any value? If it doesn't, go get $65 in coins from the dealer!!!!!! although it already sounds like his honesty my be questionable unless that's the going rate for fake coins. Report this Post to the Staff
Metalman Pillar of the Community United States 7123 Posts	Posted 01/26/2007 10:56 am although the coin is in fact (fake) ? which it appears to be ,, I would not be inclined to eagerly part with it ,, until I was able to determine why it exists. was it a coin made for a special reason ? does it commemorate something? who made it ? was it made by a known engraver? I would want to know as much about it before I sold it as I would before I bought it. Is it cast or struck ? the method of manufacture can give you some clues to what it may have been intended for. Metalman Report this Post to the Staff
OrDirtDevil Valued Member United States 214 Posts	Posted 01/26/2007 7:09 pm Even when I first got this coin it seemed to be a casted coin rather then a Stamped one. I certainly cannot see someone going threw all the work on the detail to make a large cent coin. I guess it was good enough to fool one dealer. But I have my doubts that a seasoned coin collector would pay the MS price of a 1819 large cent without noticing it being a fake. I also tested it with my metal detector and magnet to check for the possible material. It sure isn't of the steel base as it is not magnetic. It also rings up on my detector as copper based. Looking at the reserve I doubt to many people would see any difference between the real McCoy and this one. But the obverse just has that such a new look to it I doubted its authenticity from the get go. I would be really interested to know where, who and why someone would make a more common large cent with all this detail. Surely not for the penny worth. Has to be more for the collectors value. BTW, looking through the different large cents I noticed that the 1838 variety is almost indentical the 1819 I have. Anyone have someone I could contact or a sight I might start doing research into this coin? Edited by OrDirtDevil 01/28/2007 2:27 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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Authenic Or Fake Large Cent