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 Posted 05/17/2005  2:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SFDukie to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was wondering, if you could recommend one Dutch coin to a North American, which one would you choose, and why?

To reverse my own question, in thinking about what US coin I'd reccommend to a Dutchman, I'd want to know interests, budget, etc. And of course we're all colored by our own likes and dislikes.

Many of these choices would not be good investment picks, just ones that are emblematic of the best in American coinage, as defined by me

So I'll hedge and list 9;
Economy Budget (under 50 euros):
Nice AU or low MS common date buffalo nickel- "pretty" coin, workhorse of our economy at the time for daily purchases, one of the few US coins with an emblematic NA animal, love the historic reference to a plains indian.
Common date liberty seated half in VF- like the appearance, historic coin
Common date Walking Liberty half in MS63- one of the most attractive US coins IMO, silver, large enough to have nice details, one of the best bald eagle depictions
19th century "o" or "s" MM Morgan dollar in MS 63 or 64 - like the concept of those branch mints, if you need to know why a morgan, ask Fred or Kyra!

med budget (50-500 euros):
high relief Peace dollar in MS- beautiful coin, silver dollar is somehow "the" american coin
Indian head half eagle in low MS- beautiful, incuse design, again with a plains indian and one of my favorite bald eagle depictions
Fugio cent in VG with good eye appeal- first coins issued by authority of the US, unique, quirky design
Ca diamond jubilee commem in MS63- one of the prettiest classic commems, rugged individualism of the prospector comes through, with the only extinct subspecies to appear on a US coin (CA grizzly bear)
Au st gauden's double eagle- possibly the prettiest US coin


Those are my 9 off the cuff recommendations to a hypothetical European who did not know US coinage (realize that you may know much about US coinage Carl!) who wanted to collect 1 US coin and spend either under 50 euros (63 USD, 80 CD), or 50 to 500 euros (630, 800 respectively). Stunningly, I don't own most of them (but hope to one day)
What what the rest of you recommend? List up to 5 in each price range.
Canadians, Aussies, Kiwis, Belgians and others, please post similar reccs for your coinage...

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 Posted 05/17/2005  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For what I believe shows all of us.

The Buffalo nickel
The Indian Half Eagle
The Bust Dollar.
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 Posted 05/17/2005  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would add a St. Gaudens double eagle and a Standing Liberty quarter to ND's list.
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Most of the Dutch I have traded with actively collect U.S. and Canadian type coins. More Canadian than U.S. and most of them stay away from commemoratives as they prefer regularly issued circulating coins. Will be interesting to see how Carl fits this profile? Guess we will know soon!
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 Posted 05/17/2005  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
St.Gaudens $20.00, Walking Liberty half and and Buffalo nickel.....all stunning designs, sadly lost on modern coinage. Mike
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 Posted 05/23/2005  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CarlTromp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well SFDukie, If I could choose what to get from US coins, I can tell you next;
I have 1 (one) 2 dollar cent piece, it's so bad it looks like a dice, not as a coin, I would like to get a few of those in a better condition in first place, then I think I have abouth tree or four morgan's, in a desent condition, no older silver, and no gold coins at all from the states, but I am just as happy with an older 10 cent piece, or a completion of my victory five cents, as with with an more expensive, and maybee scares coin.
I collect by type and date, so, in my case, I prefer more to get a serie complete, then to have one single with a high faleu.

But, for the collector that want's some more special coins, from the last decades I could list a nice "wanna haves" list from dutch coins, as following;
The serie 5 cents 1907, 1908 and 1909(KM 137), those 3 is a complete serie, we called it here the avondkwartjes (eveningkwarters), in the dark of the evening people used those to give to a porter instead of a quarter ;-).
The 50 Gulden pieces from 1982 (KM 207) and 1995 (KM 227) have a nice profile, and looking good as well, but hard to find on trade lists!
The 2 1/2 cent pieces from KM 134, not really expensive coins, but verry well struck and in a good shape you can see all details in a verry good way!, the 2 1/2 cents KM 150 are in mint condition black!!, this was done at the mint already, a differend, and a bit longer story.
For the little bigger wallet, in the netherlands we have trade ducats, in silver and gold, see for those the Krause catalog under KM 190.1 and 190.2 etc.

This anny helpfull?
Greetings, Carl
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 Posted 05/23/2005  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CarlTromp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way, always into a nice chat abouth coins as well on MSN, I can't use ICQ on my pc, my firewall goes crazy when I "try" to install it!

Greetings, Carl
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 Posted 05/23/2005  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SFDukie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Carl,
THanks- that's exactly the sort of information I was looking for!
Don
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 Posted 05/23/2005  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CarlTromp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don,

if you need more info on dutch coins, or those who where struck here for oversea use, I could mail you some sites, or recommand you some specific books for those, next to the catalogs I subscribed at the isseu I wrote for catalogs, I also can recommand you the Zonnebloem catalogus, this catalog (all written in dutch) gives you the exact ammount of coins, and future information abouth them, you only need to learn dutch then ;-)

You also could visit the site of the royal dutch mint, there you can find a lot as well, this page is also in english availibble.
WWW.rijksmunt.nl

Greetings, Carl


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Originally posted by SFDukie

Hi Carl,
THanks- that's exactly the sort of information I was looking for!
Don

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