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Need Help If It Is Real And Worth? Chinese Guangxu Coin?

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 Posted 02/26/2012  11:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add asianarts_88 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can't tell if it is an authentic 1890s coin..and what the value might be? I appreciate any help. thanks!

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Hello, asianarts, and welcome!

These dollars are so widely counterfeited, there's always a bigger chance to get a fake than a genuine piece. I myself have three pretty skillful forgeries (looking better than yours). Your particular item was never issued for circulation, and only a handful of patterns were struck at the Heaton mint in Birmingham, UK, with the value in 5 figures.

1st thing to check is any inconsistencies in the legend. Oftentimes the counterfeiters don't bother get it right thinking it's all "Greek" to the consumers anyway. Your article mostly checks out on that one (I don't particularly like the mint mark in the center of the top pic).
2nd thing to check is the allignment, the forgers usually don't care about this kind of thing and the two sides are often upset of each other (turned by an odd angle).
3rd thing is the magnetism. The coin is supposed to be silver, so it wouldn't stick to a magnet. Counterfeits often do.
4th thing is to check the weight. It should weigh exactly "7 mace and 2 candareens" or 26.10 grams. Fakes are often underweight.
And, of course, the overall appearance and quality. Although some counterfeited coins are crude to begin with, your piece should be sharp (produced by Brits) and uncirculated, instead it looks "mushy".
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Thanks so much for the helpful information svslav..I will get a gram scale and test it out! If it were an authentic piece, what is the market price for this type of coin?
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At least $25,000! (according to my catalog)
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 Posted 02/26/2012  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add asianarts_88 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Assuming the grams check out, the alignment is correct and it isn't magnetic, what would your recommendation be for the next step for authentication?
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Bringing it to a local dealer/specialist to examine in hand, sending it to a Third Party Coin Grading company. But I wouldn't get my hopes too high ...
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The style of writing of most of the Chinese Characters is not correct, the rim denticles are very poor (typical of the counterfeits),and there is no way that piece could have been a proof striking- the details in the ornaments and central Manch writing would not be so bad with the Chinese characters as strong as they were ikf it were a genuine coin.
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