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I'm pretty sure this is Herennia Etruscilla. What denomination would this be. Also, curious as to the silver content of these. Value? Thanks!

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The coin seems to be an Antoninianus. As far as being Herennia Etruscilla I don't think it is. Not having a clear legend I'm going by the bust and it looks more like Otacilia Severa to me.
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I can't tell if this is either one. I thought I could look at the hair style and perhaps distinguish a difference, but, alas, I can't. I wish I could read the legend on your coin. If it is Otacilia Severa the obverse legend should be something like:

OTACIL SEVERA AVG

If it is Herennia Etruscilla, the obverse legend should look something like:

HER ETRVSCILLA AVG

Perhaps with the coin in-hand, you can read something of the obverse legend which might give a clue.
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Okay, thanks guys. When I get home, I'll check the legend.
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This portrait does look like HERENNIA ETRUSCILLA.
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This portrait does look like HERENNIA ETRUSCILLA


I tried to compare the portraits of both and to me they look very much alike. I believe it will come down to the legend not the portrait.
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Third row down, left. Looks like this one?

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From what I can see, it looks like the legend matches. Can you make out anything on the reverse? It looks like a figure walking left. Regardless, I believe you are correct. It is a Her Etruscilla
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They do look much alike. Glad you were able to make the legend.
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I strongly believe the coin to be as follows:-

Herennia Etruscilla AR Antoninianus
Obv:- HER ETRVSCILLA AVG, diademed, draped bust right on crescent
Rev:- PVDICITIA AVG, Pudicitia standing left holding scepter & drawing veil from her face.
RSC 17, RIC 58b

The LLA AVG leaves little alternative for the empress.

The reverse image is invereted.

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While I do believe this is Etrucilla with little doubt, any coin hat requires this much effort to identify or even tell which side is up will suffer greatly when it comes to value. You posted a link to a nice one selling for $75 and I would say this is at best 5% of that. There is quite a bit of variation when it comes to metal content of these and more when you allow for leaching of some metals more than others when the coin was buried and cleaned. These should be a bit under 50% silver at best with 35-40% more likely. Numismatic value and melt are probably pretty close (about $1?) but being identifiable would suggest not melting it. Of course I can not understand why anyone melts any ancient coin or, for that matter, anything identifiable that has any age.
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Honestly, $3.75 is what I can get for it?
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Sorry to say but in this condition with the reverse pretty much gone I think the most you would get for it is about $15.
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I'm not a coin snob, but I have come to the realization that I want coins in good to fine condition in my collection. This would not be one I would seek out at all. To me, $15 is way too much for this coin. Sorry. I know this isn't what you had hoped to hear. I could show you coin after coin in my collection that I bought for under $10 in much better condition. Admittedly, not very many will be silver for under $10, but there are some.
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Okay, thanks. I collect mainly U.S. so I know nothing on value.
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OK, I padded it a little so it wouldn't sting so much. In any event you have a coin that is about 1,750 years old to add to your collection.
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