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1853 Seated Liberty Quarter - Arrows & Rays

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 Posted 01/27/2007  4:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add okie-colin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Considering a purchase here. Buyer is claiming XF condition. What do you folks thin? Thanks.

Colin


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 Posted 01/27/2007  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Optimistic, but not crack-smoking. I'd call it a strong VF, weak EF. Noted weaknesses are Liberty's right side (viewer's left) and the eagle's neck and left (viewer's right) wing.
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 Posted 01/27/2007  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I meant Seller is claiming XF, not the buyer. Thanks Dave.
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 Posted 01/27/2007  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would go VF-35.I think the "Liberty" is just a hair weak to be XF.
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 Posted 01/27/2007  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mynt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with SuperDave's opinion. My (1854) Seated quarter was given a VF-35 by this forum, if it helps any:

http://www.coincommunity.org/galler...-25c-obv.jpg
http://www.coincommunity.org/galler...-25c-rev.jpg

Had just a little too much wear to be called an EF.
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 Posted 01/27/2007  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well you folks have it pegged I think. I had it at a strong VF also. Unfortunately the Buy IT Now price is too high for a VF and would be a bargain were it an XF. There is a large price difference between VF and XF. Excepting Ernie, who overgrades and over prices many of his coins considerably, many of these sellers who claim to know nothing about grading will price their Buy It Now prices in a way that makes me suspect they know quite a lot about grading. Mynt, I think your coin has a stronger obverse than this one. Think I'll let this one slide. Thanks to all.

Colin
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 Posted 01/27/2007  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okie,
I have found that many sellers who have a "Buy it now" price will take a lesser offer,even if they don't have "Make an offer" listed.If your interested in the coin,that is always an option.Never hurts to ask.
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01/27/2007 5:16 pm
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Good idea TLS. How do I do that and not violate ebay's rules? Can the seller accept a lesser amount on his listing and still run it through ebay? There isn't a Make an Offer option.

Colin
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 Posted 01/27/2007  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ebay still gets paid.All the seller has to do is relist as "Buy it now" at the lower price you offered.Or the seller can end the auction and send you a paypal request for the agreed amount with the ebay item number listed and they still get paid.
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 Posted 01/27/2007  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK TLS, I made him a VF price offer. Hope he takes it and I don't get ebay all upset. I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks for the suggestion.

Colin
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 Posted 01/27/2007  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good Luck!
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 Posted 01/27/2007  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ernie,ewbcoin or whoever he is calling himself at the current time always overgrades his coins in my opinion but he sure does have a pile of coins
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 Posted 01/28/2007  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well DLS, I made him a fair offer for a VF coin and he accepted it. Thanks for the idea.

Colin
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 Posted 01/28/2007  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Well DLS, I made him a fair offer for a VF coin and he accepted it. Thanks for the idea.


Good luck on that. The seller could complain to ebay later that you didn't send sufficient funds. Why on Earth he would do such a thing is beyond me though.

Still, you have to be careful when you step outside the lines at ebay.

He graded it an XF, and asked high VF money? They call that a "Blue collar" coin when a dealer does that, don't they? The difference is that you knew the correct grade.
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 Posted 01/28/2007  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TLS5933 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glad it worked for ya.
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