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Wyoming Coin Error

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 Posted 03/07/2012  09:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add peewee53 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is this an error coin, or has someone done this? Is there any value other than 25 cents ?

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03/08/2012 09:38 am
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 Posted 03/07/2012  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin was struck with a die the contain some grease filling the die to prevent the devices to show on your coin. This happens a lot but usually in a small way. But the more missing the more interest in these.
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I see the " Struck Through Grease" explanation alot but it always has seemed odd to me. Aren't the coins struck with multiple tons of pressure? It just doesn't make sense to me that grease can withstand the tons of pressure used during the process to keep the details from coming through fully. Does that seem strange to others as well? I'm not disputing what coop is saying but was wondering if someone can give further details on it because intuitively it doesn't make sense to me lol.
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If the layer of grease is thick enough and since the design isn't very deep, then it makes sense.

These machines are stamping about 750 coins per minute, so even under that pressure, it is very quick, so a little grease will fill in the die and cause a weak or missing image.

That is a really nice Greaser and definitely a keeper.
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It just doesn't make sense to me that grease can withstand the tons of pressure used during the process to keep the details from coming through fully.

There is a simple explanation- liquids are not compressible, hence the principle of hydraulics. However, it is not always just grease/oil either. The lubricants can also bind with metal dust to form a hardened "press gunk", it can clog the dies as well and it is the reason why dropped letter errors exist(press gunk clog dislodging from die devices and then being struck into the coin).
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 Posted 03/07/2012  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It kind of like a hydrolic jack. What lifts the jack. Oil. The pressure is able to lift about any weight you wish it to. Same way with grease. It fills the die and prevents that area from forming the design there. They can be even more filled:
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...e_Filled.jpg
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...adzdad71.jpg
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Aren't the coins struck with multiple tons of pressure? It just doesn't make sense to me that grease can withstand the tons of pressure used during the process to keep the details from coming through fully.

Grease, even with all the dust, dirt, metal filings etc that are in it, still acts as a liquid. Liquids, for all practical purposes, are incompressible. So when the coin is struck the grease trapped between the dies and the planchet becomes the "immovable object". It fills the cavity in the die and can't get out because field of the die pressed against the planchet forms a tight seal. And since the grease can't be compressed the metal of the planchet can't enter the cavity in the die. So after the strike you have a blank area on the coin. The faint lettering you see on the OP coin is because there wasn't enough grease to completely fill the letter.
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