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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
That coin has been seriously wronged--either by chemical cleaning, abrasives or both--metal was removed. I think the color is due to reaction to chemical cleaners, such as Brasso. The coin is now worth less than its original BN EF45 surfaces. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Love the title... Quote: ...CHOICE BU RED... Ugh! I can't believe it's up to $660 with almost 2 hours to go.
Edited by cwb1877 03/07/2012 6:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think people bid without looking at it first.... 
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 United States
371 Posts |
I am not bidding but trying to learn on how to identify these problems, it seems the seller is using key words to sell it high but used "recolored" to cover himself.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'd describe what was done to that poor coin, but it would all be caught in the bad word filter.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1660 Posts |
"re-colored" "guaranteed authentic" A new low in ebay double speak. edit: Zoom into the diamonds. I swear they look re-tooled.
Edited by ArrowsAndRays 03/07/2012 8:20 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8517 Posts |
Dipped clean and re-toned. The coin still has worth but way way less than what they're bidding.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Quote: edit: Zoom into the diamonds. I swear they look re-tooled.  those diamonds do look very crude.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1660 Posts |
$750 final, free shipping! "private listing - bidders' identities protected" There is a 7 day return. Hope the buyer sees their error.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I looked at the rest of his listings. Some say the coin may have been recolored, lol. He has a beautiful 1857 FE that he just ruined. It's too bad really, he's ruined some nice coins.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
$750?  This coin is so ravaged that it's not worth more than a F12 price. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3755 Posts |
Perhaps I am missing something here, but I do not see how this coin could be called "ravaged". It likely was dipped at some point, this I can go with. But ravaged? What makes this coin so abused? Tell me just what you are seeing that causes you to say that.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
I guess "ravaged" is a subjective term, but that's what I call it.  It's a coin that will disappoint a collector. To my eyes, it's more than dipped--some harsh chemical like a polish has been used. I base that on the flat, washed-out fields, the color, and how all those nicks (some large) on Liberty's face are brightly beveled--it tells me that surface metal was removed--just my opinion, but I've looked at a lot of IHCs, and I trust my gut. 
Edited by DVCollector 03/07/2012 10:34 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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DV, fair enough. To my eye the coin simply looks to have been dipped at some point. But I have been fooled by pics before. But thanks for the explanation. I've been doing this a long time, but I like to find out why someone grades a coin differently than I do. that way I can learn more.
BTW, I want that coin you have for an avatar. I have been looking for an Athena ancient for my wife for a while. One that wont cost me half an arm. LOL
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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SR, our reasoning might be different, but it's fair to say we both doubt it's "BU"  I wish the avatar was my coin; mine isn't quite as perfect, but still nice for a fraction of the price. I picked mine up recently from a seller on vcoins. 
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