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1909-S IHC Recolored?

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 Posted 03/07/2012  6:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jleveille to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This looks like a nice coin but seller claims its recolored. Is this a just a new term for cleaned?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-S-CHOI...em3a711b7910
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 Posted 03/07/2012  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That coin has been seriously wronged--either by chemical cleaning, abrasives or both--metal was removed. I think the color is due to reaction to chemical cleaners, such as Brasso. The coin is now worth less than its original BN EF45 surfaces.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb1877 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Love the title...


Quote:
...CHOICE BU RED...


Ugh!

I can't believe it's up to $660 with almost 2 hours to go.
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03/07/2012 6:59 pm
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 Posted 03/07/2012  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think people bid without looking at it first....
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I am not bidding but trying to learn on how to identify these problems, it seems the seller is using key words to sell it high but used "recolored" to cover himself.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd describe what was done to that poor coin, but it would all be caught in the bad word filter.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"re-colored" "guaranteed authentic"

A new low in ebay double speak.

edit: Zoom into the diamonds. I swear they look re-tooled.
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03/07/2012 8:20 pm
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 Posted 03/07/2012  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dipped clean and re-toned. The coin still has worth but way way less than what they're bidding.
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edit: Zoom into the diamonds. I swear they look re-tooled.


those diamonds do look very crude.
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$750 final, free shipping!
"private listing - bidders' identities protected"
There is a 7 day return. Hope the buyer sees their error.
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I looked at the rest of his listings. Some say the coin may have been recolored, lol. He has a beautiful 1857 FE that he just ruined. It's too bad really, he's ruined some nice coins.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$750? This coin is so ravaged that it's not worth more than a F12 price.
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Perhaps I am missing something here, but I do not see how this coin could be called "ravaged". It likely was dipped at some point, this I can go with. But ravaged? What makes this coin so abused? Tell me just what you are seeing that causes you to say that.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess "ravaged" is a subjective term, but that's what I call it. It's a coin that will disappoint a collector.
To my eyes, it's more than dipped--some harsh chemical like a polish has been used.
I base that on the flat, washed-out fields, the color, and how all those nicks (some large) on Liberty's face are brightly beveled--it tells me that surface metal was removed--just my opinion, but I've looked at a lot of IHCs, and I trust my gut.
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03/07/2012 10:34 pm
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 Posted 03/08/2012  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DV, fair enough. To my eye the coin simply looks to have been dipped at some point. But I have been fooled by pics before. But thanks for the explanation. I've been doing this a long time, but I like to find out why someone grades a coin differently than I do. that way I can learn more.

BTW, I want that coin you have for an avatar. I have been looking for an Athena ancient for my wife for a while. One that wont cost me half an arm. LOL
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 Posted 03/09/2012  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SR, our reasoning might be different, but it's fair to say we both doubt it's "BU"
I wish the avatar was my coin; mine isn't quite as perfect, but still nice for a fraction of the price.
I picked mine up recently from a seller on vcoins.

1909-S-IHC-Recolored?
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