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Found this on ebay. Can they really think this coin makes this grade? Are people breaking open slabs and changing coins? I guess that where there is a will there is a way but these have seals and it should be obvious. Jim
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 Posted 01/29/2007  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well this is one of centles coins he is the one who sells the NNC slabs unless someone else bought them from him and they are trying to recoop their money. NNC is a backyard slabber of a one guy team that just puts his inventory into plastic and slaps a unrealistic grade on it to fool the unsuspecting buyer. Their coins are usually 4-7 points off which is pretty bad and you are talking thousands of dollars on certain coins but he has gotten away with it this long and it will be us on the forums 10 years down the road when these unsuspected buyers who was buying collector coins so they could leave their family something dies and we have to tell their family that their loved one got taken for a ride and the coins that would have been worth thousands is really only worth hundreds or less. That is why we do what we do to try and educate each and everyone we can before they get taken for a ride by these fly by night slabbers like the NNC's and SGS's on ebay
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 Posted 01/29/2007  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coldshot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
if someone craks a slab and changes coins the breakage will be noticable but only in hand not in a full frantal pic. And it does happen. ebay is getting really shaky. Why cant folks just be honest.
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 Posted 01/29/2007  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Holy cow! That is the most egregious example of over grading that I have ever seen! Makes ernie look like a piker!
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 Posted 01/29/2007  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you look closely (it's hard to see through all the toning, I know), there is a fingerprint in the right obverse field. This coin is NOT an MS67 in my opinion (but, gee, I guess that's no surprise). I also get the feeling that this photo was photoshopped pretty well.

I have moved this topic to the ebay discussion section as I feel that it is more appropriate there.
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 Posted 01/29/2007  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
N.N.C. grading = Naturally Not Correct grading
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This is the kind of junk that can ruin coin collecting for the beginner.
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 Posted 01/30/2007  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tykimeister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or it can teach a beginner the benefits of being a scam artist.
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 Posted 01/30/2007  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Five4fighting to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW a MS-67 eh? If I had to grade it I think I would have giving it a EF-40. At best a AU what grade do you guys think it is?
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No where AU by my lights and 40 is being generous. Maybe I am being mean spirited to the coin because of the grader, though. Jim
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I was just thinking. If this is as ms-67, you should see mu ms/135 Buffalo nickel. You can just about see the date. Jim
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