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Augustus. 27 Bc-Ad 14. Iron Dies - Joe Geranio

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Augustus. 27 BC-AD 14. Iron dies for Æ Dupondius or As. Dimensions of obverse die: die face 31 mm in diameter and die shank 37 mm. Weight: 148.40 grams. Bronze face of cast impression of reverse of dupondius (RIC I 381) or as (RIC I 382) for the moneyer Cn. Piso Cn. f. mounted to iron shank. Dimensions of reverse die: die face 30 mm in diameter; die shank 39 mm at the face, tapering to 30 mm in diameter at mid point and widening to 42 mm at the base. Weight: 320.20 grams. Bronze face of cast impression of reverse of dupondius (RIC I 381) or as (RIC I 382) for the moneyer Cn. Piso Cn. f. mounted to iron shank. Cf. N. Lupu, "Aspekte des Münzumlaufs I'm vorrömischen Dakien," JNG XVII (1967), pl. 7; cf. C.C. Vermeule, "Some notes on ancient dies and coining methods," NumCirc LXII.2 (February 1954), pp. 53-4; cf. W. Malkmus, "Addenda to Vermeule's catalog of ancient coin dies: Part 1," SAN XVII.4 (September 1989) -. VF for type, die faces well-preserved with green and light olive patina, worn from striking. Extremely rare set with both obverse and reverse die .

Based on the dies themselves, it is impossible to tell whether they were used to strike dupondii or asses, since both issues of this moneyer were of the same type. This remarkable set of dies was undoubtedly employed to strike local coinage in one of the Balkan provinces along the Danube frontier.

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Those are very neat.
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Very nice set of dies. I would love to own a set of these or any dies for that matter.
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I guess those dies are in a museum. I wonder what price dies such as this would bring at auction?
I have never heard of ancient coin dies come to auction.
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Genuine ancient and mediaeval coin dies are very, very scarce, since unlike the coins that were made from them, the dies were never intended for public distribution. Like most other ancient crafts, die manufacture and use was a "guild secret" within the mint, one which the mint workers would have been expected to guard with their lives; dies were never just casually thrown away, just in case the unscrupulous found them and started making his own coins.

Finding a single die is rare enough. Finding a matched pair is even rarer.
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Very cool, I've been wondering what those looked like.
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In my humble opinion, I highly doubt any of us will ever own an ancient die. As Sap mentioned, they are so rare that even if someone here did run across one, it would be so astronomically expensive that you could never afford it. I saw an auction catalog years ago that had a single die listed in it. It was a relatively common type coin. The price was: $15,000. I am not sure what the price range is for these now, but I would assume it to be higher.

Still, I will always dream of owning one! Never know...might get lucky.
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Very cool--and nice to see the profile of the hammer die vs. the anvil.
Obviously the hammer is designed to be hand-held, and the anvil was set into something stable.
I wish I could see a close-up of the die faces.
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