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Counting Fold On Most Of The 1990's German Banknotes?

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 Posted 04/23/2012  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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However, if I can somehow write a claim to Paypal in order to force him to refund me about 10$ in order for me to pay for the shipping to return the note to him, I would do it, but I have never done this so I'm not sure what Paypal would decide in this case.

It's pretty straightforward. I can understand (as a seller) no partial refunds, because that's often used as an excuse to get a better deal.

If you complain to epay/baYpaL, explaining your concerns about cost or not getting a refund, they will usually let you keep it AND refund all the money, including shipping.

Your specific complaint is SNAD - Significantly Not As Described. He advertised new and sent damaged.
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, ashb123!
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 Posted 03/30/2013  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littlejohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello everyone,

let me help with the "problem" of damaged (5) DM notes.
First of all, Mr. Hilmer is a highly recommended dealer in Germany. I bought a lot of times from him and never had problems.
Now let`s face the problem:
It was said that this damage was caused by counting machines. That is possible but not the whole truth.
The main reason for this "damage" is the cutting process. If you put let`s say 50 sheets on another then
the part of paper with the security strip is much bigger than the rest. If now comes the cutter from above,
the parts of paper are cut normally but it takes a lot more power to cut the part with security strips.
I hope my English is well enough to be understood...
Now, if you have a banknote with a very slight damage, the note was on the upper sheets. If the damage is as
severe as shown at the beginning of this topic, the note was on one of the lowest sheets.
In Germany this belongs to the process of production, so these notes are still in UNC-condition.

Btw: This "problems" are still existing for Euro-banknotes
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03/30/2013 10:44 am
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 Posted 03/30/2013  10:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baanos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi littlejohn

If I understand your explanation correctly, since it takes more power to cut the area where the security strip is, it causes it to sort of "bend" this area of the paper and thus creates a crease right where the cutting occurs ?
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 Posted 03/30/2013  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littlejohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Baanos,

exactely that is what I wanted to explain.
Sorry for my poor English...
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 Posted 03/30/2013  10:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Baanos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No worries, English is not my first language either. It makes sense then what you said.
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