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Opinion On Grades 1 Cent 1930-1939-Spp Input Needed

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 Posted 03/13/2012  3:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coingirl to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Here are a few nice coins.
what you see is how they look, perhaps even better.Colors are not fixed and the coins are red . it si difficult to photograpf toned and or natural combinations and reflections.
I have a bunch more from 1941-1949 which are same or better and will probably post them after the verdict on these is in.
I am not sure if I should or should not send them to either ICCS or CCCS for grading.. ot send them not at all.
SPP remarked that some of the earlier coins have weak strikes.
just wondering , based on his remarks, if it is worth it.
One thing is for sure. I will eventually divest myself of them. Graded or not.
\we all know they have to reach a pretty high grade to be worth some money.
So, any input and grading suggestion and comments is much appreciated.
thanks
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 Posted 03/13/2012  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO I wouldnt have them graded.
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 Posted 03/14/2012  06:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add secoinedchance to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I love the wood grain on the '37. I see 2 scratches that run NE to W across the maple leaves on the '39 as well as on George's neck. Not huge and obvious but still...George looks a little beat-up too on the '32. I'd defiantely send the '37 woodie in though
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 Posted 03/14/2012  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coingirl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NO scratches on the 39. long one which looks like a scratch is a DieCrack. Definitely NOT a scratch
on the neck, also not a scratch.
the 32 is not beat up. the question here is : will a TPG recognize a very weak / shallow strike?
the 37 appears to be dbl struck both sides, perhaps 3x?
will post my 4oties later for comments
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The lighting you used highlights the bad, and not the good, in your coins... I realize it is probably a form of glare reduction, but it also kills any of the cartwheel lustre that I know those coins should have. In general, the surfaces of those coin looks pristine, some are even better than most MS-65 coins you see in ICCS holders. ICCS does recognize weak strikes and grades more technically than say PCGS. But, and this is an important 'but', ICCS often docks grade points for carbon spots and colour. If a coin is red-brown or trace red, it had better be perfect to get a MS-64 grade. CCCS will grade red and brown coins MS-65, but ICCS will not. That said, I do have a ICCS MS-64 lustrous brown (NFLD coin), and that is not a common grade they hand out. My comments:

1932 - don't bother with sending that one in. The spots kill the eye-appeal, regardless of the grade. I would not buy that coin even if it was in an auction at 20% trends. Frankly, and I know some people will cringe here hearing this, but that coin needs some restoration help.

1937 - I actually like the toning on this coin, but I cannot see any of the doubling with that photo. Not worth sending it in because it is a fairly common coin in mint state condition. Over 450 have been certified by ICCS alone in MS-65 red. I would buy this coin, probably for the toning more than anything....

1938 - Weak strike, but a nice coin. Unlike the other denominations, the 1938 cent is a common coin, with more than 425 certified by ICCS as MS-65 red

1939 - Probably the nicest surfaces of the bunch, but that photo does not lend itself to what the obverse is actually like, colour-wise. However, this is a very common coin in very high grades. Over 1000 have been certified as MS-65 and over 80 as MS-66 by ICCS. This is the easiest year for type collectors to get a gem red George VI cent, so, it is not even worth paying the certification costs, because it will take forever to sell (low demand). At the upcoming Nuphilex auction, an entire BU Red roll is on the auction block, with only a $400 estimate - that should give you a ballpark of how common a raw 1939 is. If you are planning to sell this coin, I might be a buyer (depending on the price), because it might be fun to mess around with it at the lab at work.

If your photos are good, you should be able to sell these coins. I would not bother getting them graded.
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 Posted 03/14/2012  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really like that 37 but I don't see the need for any of these to be graded like I said before. Also I don't see any doubling?
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 Posted 03/14/2012  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the kind of eye appeal that small cent collectors like... as I said before, bronze coin collectors are a fussy bunch, regardless of the country of origin and series. Sometimes eye-appeal and colour are much more important than grade.

https://goccf.com/t/105585&whichpage=1

For this example, I would take my coin any day, over a PCGS MS-64 brown.
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 Posted 03/15/2012  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just wondering, Why did you want these to be graded?
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 Posted 03/15/2012  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coingirl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to see if it is worth it to send to TPG...
cents is not my thing. they came to me some time ago with a collection
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 Posted 03/15/2012  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh ok, Do you have the charlton guide?
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6 years back have them all..
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6 years back have them all..
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