Delmatius Alternate Spelling "dalmatius"

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Biancasdad Pillar of the Community United States 1045 Posts	Posted 03/18/2012 6:17 pm Hello friends, I posted this on another forum but I wanted to post it here as well to get as many opinions as possible (maybe a pat on the back too) I just made my first purchases for the 2012 year as I am trying to be a bit more selective this year. I am hoping a theme will develop for me this year as well. I wanted to share this coin with everyone. I don't have it in hand yet; these are the sellers pictures. I have been trying to find a Delmatius with the alternate spelling "Dalmatius". As most know, Delmatius coins, more often then not, don't seem to be in the best condition, so I was pretty excited to get this one with decent legends, a clear mint mark, AND with the alternate spelling. I am not sure how the seller missed it (or maybe he/she just typed it in wrong), but they attributed this coin with the "Delmatius" spelling without an RIC reference so I was hoping to get a bargain. I put in a max bid of $40 and ended up winning the auction for $26 with free shipping. Placing a value on a coin isn't high on my list of priorities as I believe the "value" of a coin is really determined by the personal preference of the buyer. However, having said that, I really think I got an amazing deal here, unless I am missing something. Anyways, I was hoping others could comment on the value of this coin as far as what they might be willing to pay for it, or just make a more casual assessment in regards to a general market value. Again, putting a price on a coin isn't my intention. I just want to see, in this particular instance, if my research and growing education has helped me become a more effective buyer as my normal behavior is more on the impulsive side. Always appreciative of any comments. Thanks in advance! -Kurt PS. I find the celator's portrait designs from Thessalonica to be really interesting and remarkably different than the other mints. Delmatius - Thessalonica - AE3 - RIC VII 227 Obverse: FL DALMATIVS NOB C, laureate, draped & cuirassed bust right Reverse: GLORI-A EXER-CITVS, two soldiers, each holding reversed spear & resting on shield, standing on either side of standard, SMTSE Edited by Biancasdad 03/18/2012 6:19 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Bing Pillar of the Community United States 4253 Posts	Posted 03/18/2012 6:59 pm This a very nice Delmatius, especially with the alternative spelling. To be honest and to show my ignorance, I was totally unaware of the alternate spelling until you posted this thread. So, I got my only Delmatius coin out and took a good look, and I believe it too has the alternate spelling, although mine is not as clear as yours. Take a look and see if you think it is a "A" or "E": Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 03/18/2012 7:19 pm My one and only Delmatius RIC 227 was found in a lot of uncleaned coins and is just barely readable. At $26 your coin was IMO a steal. It's in excellent condition and I would have not problem paying up to $75 for it. Report this Post to the Staff
Biancasdad Pillar of the Community United States 1045 Posts	Posted 03/18/2012 8:27 pm JW, Yours does actually look like "DALMATIUS". I am pretty sure the only two mints that had this alternate spelling were Thessalonica and Nicodemia and your mint mark does looks like Thessalonica but my eyes aren't too good. Echizento, I was kind of thinking the same thing. I have been looking at every Delmatius I can for 3 months with both spellings and any example that shows the basic details seems to be $50 minimum. Thank you both, Cheers, -Kurt Edited by Biancasdad 03/18/2012 8:33 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Bing Pillar of the Community United States 4253 Posts	Posted 03/18/2012 8:43 pm Quote: our mint mark does looks like Thessalonica but my eyes aren't too good I have it attributed as "CONSI". but I will look into it further. Like you, my eyes are not the best any longer. If anyone else can see what the mintmark is, I'd appreciate the help. Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 03/18/2012 8:51 pm Interesting topic, I think I read "DALMATIUS" on JW's coin too. Are Roman-alphabet misspellings common for Greek-speaking mints. Report this Post to the Staff
Biancasdad Pillar of the Community United States 1045 Posts	Posted 03/18/2012 9:54 pm DV, I think the alternate name spelling in this case was intentional, although I can't say that with 100% certainty. I read something on the subject but can't remember exactly where. Delmatius' father name was Dalmatius, and I think to some extent their names may have been interchangeable but that is pure speculation on my part. JW, I can see the mint mark either way "CONSI" or "SMT" but all research so far doesn't show the "one standard" type being minted anywhere but Thess. and Nic. Doug Smith's site provides some confirmation as well. http://dougsmith.ancients.info/delmat.html Interesting subject which makes collecting ancients much more rewarding than my first 30 years of collecting US coins. -Kurt Edited by Biancasdad 03/18/2012 10:24 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Bing Pillar of the Community United States 4253 Posts	Posted 03/18/2012 11:10 pm Quote: Interesting subject which makes collecting ancients much more rewarding than my first 30 years of collecting US coins. totally! Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 03/18/2012 11:17 pm I was just thinking about this--regarding some comments I get about "breaking the bank" by collecting ancients. It's a misconception, because one mid-grade US "key coin" costs more than my (small) ancients collection. Report this Post to the Staff
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