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 Posted 03/18/2012  2:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Amputating to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I need an answer as quickly as possible : P
http://www.ebay.com/itm/17080152408....m1423.l2649

He is also selling the heavily counterfeited

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ATTICA-ATHE...em27c490c4dd
Edited by Amputating
03/18/2012 2:22 pm
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 Posted 03/18/2012  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is hard to tell from the pics. I wouldn't go for it if there is doubt.
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 Posted 03/18/2012  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think they are both authentic, but hard to be 100% certain just from the images. If they are real, they are beautiful. Good luck
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 Posted 03/18/2012  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amputating to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not an ancients expert, so I came here

here is website I have been looking at to try and compare.. cant find one with the crab off the coin like that, seems like mostly the bird gets cut off.. and I dont see a rim indented on the rev.. what do you think?

http://www.acsearch.info/search.htm...ew_mode=1#20
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 Posted 03/18/2012  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amputating to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
he has a 60 day money back sort of thing and 100% feedback, so maybe I could get it confirmed by pcgs/ngc?
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 Posted 03/18/2012  2:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Take a quick look at http://forgerynetwork.com/default.aspx and http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/index.php to see if there are any die matches.
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 Posted 03/18/2012  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amputating to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
none look like any of the forgery var.

http://forgerynetwork.com/viewasset...20&srchall=0
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 Posted 03/18/2012  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It just ended.
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 Posted 03/18/2012  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amputating to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I didnt get it. I tried 285 and it shot all the way from like 250 to 350.

I dont get how ebay bidding works.. I'm confused about the autobidding thing.
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 Posted 03/18/2012  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
=> did you end-up buying it (them)?


apparently not ... too bad (it was a very cool coin)

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03/18/2012 2:45 pm
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 Posted 03/18/2012  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amputating to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wasnt interested in the second link, just merely showing he was selling another coin that was known for being conterfeited.


Thanks everyone for the quick responses, even though I didnt end up getting it : P
Edited by Amputating
03/18/2012 2:46 pm
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 Posted 03/18/2012  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Neither of these coins should ever be an impulse buy--for the reasons cited already.
At first glance, both are lacking on details to either confirm or refute their authenticity.
This may explain the lowish final bid on the Akragas didrachm.
--just my opinion, I'll just wait to hear others.
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 Posted 03/18/2012  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Steve, to give my opinion...I think the same rules apply to that ebay coin.
The profuse description/provenance does not hide the fact the seller does not accept returns--something reputable dealers do. They didn't get the dating right either.
Even if genuine, the coin has a lot of issues that make the current $475 bid too high--imo.
Personally, there are details on this coin I don't like, such as the Medusa snakes where the helmet crest should be.
Anyone here interested in an Athenian owl tet is welcome to shoot me an email--and I'll send you the research I've done before buying.
Edited by DVCollector
03/18/2012 5:40 pm
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 Posted 03/18/2012  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
okay thanks
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 Posted 03/18/2012  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I dont get how ebay bidding works.. I'm confused about the autobidding thing.


If someone places a proxy bid of 400, and the highest current bid is 240, it shows 250 as high bid. If another bidder puts in a proxy of 340, the robot raises the bid to 350, which is still under the 400 proxy.

Think of it as telling ebay the most you're willing to pay, and they bid for you until you win or someone is willing to pay more.

A much better way is to go to http://www. (20120216) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed .com and set up an account, giving them your proxy.

The advantage: If you give ebay a proxy nine days before the auction ends, that's nine days other bidders can keep bumping the bid and eating away at your proxy. They can even "accidentally" bid $10,000 and find your high bid, then remove their bid.

With (20120216) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed , no one at ebay knows your bid, or even that you're interested, until 8 seconds before the auction ends, when your bid is made automagically, even if you're not at your nincompute. That usually doesn't allow enuf time for another bid, so you win (unless you just plain didn't offer enuf).
Edited by biggfredd
03/18/2012 7:25 pm
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