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 Posted 03/18/2012  10:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ssp stamps and coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey guys, I came across 2 of these coins the other day, and I'm struggling to find any information on it. If you could take a look at the photos and let me know what you guys think it is it would be much appreciated.

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 Posted 03/18/2012  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It seems to be a 5 pound commerative for 500 yrs,. of something. Be nice to see the lettering.
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 Posted 03/18/2012  10:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ssp stamps and coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The lettering on the reverse is 'HENRICUS.VIII.DI.GRA.REX.1509-2009' and on the reverse it says 'HER MAJESTY QUEEN ELIZABETH II. TDC'
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 Posted 03/19/2012  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The alloy from which these are made seems to be aureate bronze or similar.
This would help to explain why the patina has a blotchy appearance.
I don't recognise the style of portraiture of H.M.the Q.

It seems to be a commercially produced medal, commemorating the start of his reign in 1509. He was 18 years old at the start of his reign, the portrait of him pictured here is of Henry, but when he was much older than 18.

Henry V111 and I share the same birthday, but I am not dead yet.
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03/19/2012 12:42 am
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 Posted 03/19/2012  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ssp stamps and coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After googling the inscription, I found this:

http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/2009tr...vereign.html

Can anyone confirm this? If so, I'm a very lucky man indeed!
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 Posted 03/19/2012  01:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say in celebrates Henry the eighth's ascension to the throne in 1509.
He's the fat guy that had 6 wives and created the church of England so he could get a divorce.
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 Posted 03/19/2012  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"TDC" does indeed stand for Tristan da Cunha, the tiny volcanic island in the South Atlantic Ocean in whose name this "coin" was produced. In commemoration of the 500th anniversary of the accession of Henry VIII.

Your coin is not gold. The denomination is "five pounds", not "half sovereign"; the half-sovereign coin will be quite small. Your link helped confirm, however, that these were made by the "London Mint Office", a private mint with a pseudo-official-sounding name and a less-than-sterling reputation. You would have had to pay £120 for one of these new off the LMO website, but it's only sterling silver, with a thin gold-plate and a couple of gimmicky gemstones; the secondary market is virtually nonexistent. Your coins also appear to be damaged, unless that's a trick of the lighting. I'd value it in the £20-£50 range?

If you don't get any takers at that price, you can go to Tristan da Cunha and maybe get a fiver for it.
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 Posted 03/19/2012  01:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did not know of this piece until now.
My effort here is a result of joining the dots together, hence some errors, now put right.
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 Posted 03/19/2012  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andyg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's the same portrait as those used on the dubious sets from Nightingale Island, Stolenhoff Island, Gough Island and Whereverwilltheythinkofnext Island.
These are all produced by the Commonwealth mint http://www.thecommonwealthmint.co.uk/ snd sold by the London Mint office.

London mint office have a new outlet, in Dublin - called the "Dublin mint office" - it didn't take them long to make the news http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0314/coins.html
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 Posted 03/22/2012  04:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MikeG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We get quite a few of these advertised in flyers (usually in TV listing Mags) from companies in the UK and they all imply that they are genuine coins recognised by the authorities when in fact they are simply commemorative coins and unlikely to ever give you a profit (indeed almost guaranteed to give you a loss) in the years to come. Some of these companies sail very 'close to the wind' in legal terms.
I think that people assume that because they carry a picture of the Queen they are legal tender authorised by The Royal Mint.
There's always someone out there ready to make a quick buck from the unwary.
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