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Do You Recognise This Man?

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This portrait comes from a medallion/brooch:

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It is some form of early plastic but, if my suspicions are correct, too early for Bakelite.

I thought it might be Prince Albert but would appreciate a wider point of view as I feel he has a Nordic look to him.

As always your opinions are valued.

Bob
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Portrait looks too old and also too much facial hair for Prince Albert.
I'd certainly be looking at European royalty/aristocracy. Any other clues?
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Unfortunately no.It was only the receding hairline that put me in mind of Albert. Clutching at straws as usual.
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I'm not a big connaisseur but I think he looks I little like Wilhelm 1. but I'm maybe far off.
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I was thinking Wilhelm as well....
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Curious to see the back of it. That may give us more clues to his identity.

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I think there's a closer resemblance to Christian IX of Denmark (15 November 1863 -- 29 January 1906)

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It resembles a lot like Christian IX facial-wise, but the beard doesn't match that much.
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It's not a close enough match--none of his coins show him with a beard.
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That doesn't necessarily mean anything. There're plenty of, say, Victorian medals on which she doesn't look same as on any coins.

Or I got this KG2 medal, he looks totally different on coins:
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I don't know who the guy is, but if your plastic piece predates bake-lite it can only be Gutta Percha, a.k.a. balata. It is a natural thermoplastic that was discovered/invented prior to 1850. I am not sure about the details of it, just know it was used to make a lot of different things during the U.S. Civil War and I occasionally find stuff made from it during relics hunts.
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Franz Joseph?
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The back shows the remains of a broken clasp which was embedded during the manufacturing process. This to my mind rules out Bois Durci as a likely material.

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It measures 44.52mm x 5.7mm and weighs 10gr.

Wilhelm I has been a popular choice elsewhere and whoever it is must have been instantly recogniseable in his own time.

Gutta Percha's a good idea. I'd only associated it with old golf balls, but on investigation it's going to be either that or the balata.

Thanks all, this is really great!

Bob
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