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One Cent Wide AM Rare?

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Which penny is the rarest of all in Wide AM,
1998, 1999 or 2000 ?
I found two 2000 WAM, so they must not be that rare if I found them!
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1999 is the least common.
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Congrats on the nice finds!

Rarest to more common are 1999, 2000, and then 1998. They are all worth saving though.
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The thinking used to be that the 1998 was tougher to find than the 2000. Many people, including myself, have found more 1998s than 2000s.
Of course finding a 1998 & 2000 like these is a bummer.
One-Cent-Wide-AM-Rare? One-Cent-Wide-AM-Rare?
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Hello,

What actually happened back when the the mint produced the wide AMs for these years?

In other words was a Wide AM run of coins discovered and then intentionally stopped because it was out of tolerance?

Or did the wide AMs periodically and randomly occur as a result of non predictable die manufacturing?

I was just wondering if anyone knew the history of this particular variety...1-Confused

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The Wide AM style was used on proofs. Apparently, somehow a few business strike dies were made with the hub intended for proof dies. There are also " Close AM" versions of proofs for 1998 and 1999 (the normal would be Wide AM), and a rare Close AM version of 1992 and 1992-D. Normal 1992 and prior had a Wide AM, but a small number of 1992 cents were struck with 1993 style reverses.
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Crap, I wrote out this long reply then click. Was not logged on. :)
Short version: No one knows as yet which yr. is the scarcest.
Maybe the 98 got a late punch start during the yr. ?
The 2000 would be a logical choice as the mint had already
ran 2 yrs. of coins without detecting the problem. Maybe looking at all 3 yrs. total mintage figures would be a start.
Then figure the % of reported finds for ea. yr. etc. Depends where the coins went also. I have found a half dozen 2000 but no 98 or 99. I live in Mass. Home of the first 92-P close A.M.
I actually was lucky enough to have seen it raw in hand the day it was brought in to a local dealer.
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Oh well, not much of a clue in the total mintage figures.
98-P 5 mil.
99-P 5.2
2000-P 5.5

Call the mint. Get some answers here.
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This may answer what you are after....

"Here is what Wexler has:

1992-D CAM -1 Die Pair Listing Note: (Crawford has 2 Die Pairs Listed)

1998 WAM - 29 Die Pairs Listed

1999 WAM - 4 Die Pairs Listed

2000 WAM - 23 Die Pairs Listed"

As you can see the 99 is scarcer, after the 92s of course
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So all wammys are Phillies and a cammy can be Denver and Philly ?
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Quote:
...a cammy can be Denver and Philly


Also S proofs.
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Coneca list 7 dies for 1988 1c RDV-006
4 dies for 1988D RDV-006
2 dies for 1999 RDV-006 ( WAM)
1 die for 1992-D 1c RDV-007 (CAM)
They had no counts on the other ones.
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