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 Posted 03/24/2012  9:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hondo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
For a 1953 pr65 cameo Franklin half with nice edge toning?
It's in a certified set, but I would be able to buy just the half.

Set has a pricetag, but I'm just curious to get some opinions.
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 Posted 03/24/2012  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Numismedia price range on cameo 1953 Proof Franklin half
1953 Cameo PR61 78.00 PR62 102.00 PR63 131.25 PR64 162.50 PR65 225.00 PR66 300.00 PR67 670.00 PR68 2,500.00 PR69 -- PR70 --

Deep Cameo in PF65 lists for $1,560.00

Here's an interesting link and website as well for you. LINK
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 Posted 03/24/2012  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very good info! Thank you.
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 Posted 03/24/2012  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They're going $200-ish on Heritage.
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You're welcome, I hardly ever pay list price for anything. Your opinion for eye appeal will be a factor. Ask yourself if it is an exceptionally nice looking coin. Does it really grab you?
I would think it would also matter how much cameo you have there and I think they determine cameo from deep or ultra cameo by looking at the field and how well you can see text in the reflection and at what distance it is clear enough to see while holding the coin at an angle on a page of a book or newspaper.
But then, I may be confused with circulation strikes with prooflike qualities so I don't know if I am correct about this applying to proof coins.

Of course you need to have that strong black on white appearance for a true cameo. Probably one way to describe a deep cameo would be it having the appearance of the devices almost floating in a black void and the field becomes almost invisible when the coin is held just right.
The closer it is to that quality the more it might be just missing the deep cameo designation and therefore I think it would make some sense for it to be worth a little more than an ordinary cameo.

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Here's an interesting link and website as well for you.

http://blog.davidlawrence.com/index...alysis-1953/


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Most 1953 proof Franklins are less than Proof 65 gem quality, with the majority grading proof 63-64.


A direct contradiction to every row on the chart. In fact, with the exception of PCGS Proof, PR66 is the commonest condition.
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The coin I'm looking at is in a pcgs holder and it's graded as pr65 cameo. Makes it even more attractive since the table shows a very small number in this grade. Is this because pcgs grades tougher (which is a change since pcgs is easier to getting fbl out of) or because NFC is more commonly used?

Biggfredd, I have the hard copy Franklin guide by tomaska and I spend alot of time reading it. Besides the numerous spelling errors, there are alot of comments such as the one you pointed out, which male me read over and over to see if I am missing something.
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Thenickelguy, thanks for all the suggestions. I haven't really looke to closely at the coin yet. I just saw it for the first time yesterday. Next week when I go back I will take a closer look at the fields and see how the cameo really looks.

At first glance, the coin definitely caught my eye. Very nice with that beautiful red edge toning. Apparently, with this being the last year of individual cellophane envelope packaging, the toning is very common. Looks like a 1953 with no toning would be the exception.
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Is this because pcgs grades tougher (which is a change since pcgs is easier to getting fbl out of)


There are crackout experts who spend millions trying to get coins sufficient overgraded. I won't try to second guess them.
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A direct contradiction to every row on the chart. In fact, with the exception of PCGS Proof, PR66 is the commonest condition.


But how can a chart of what people send in for grading compare to the full population of that coin? Generally people only grade really high grade coins and not the common ones, so I would expect the higher grades to have a higher number of coins graded than the common one.
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Define "high grades". I would think people would consider sending in this particular coin from PR65 up.
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You seem to like it so just buy it and post pics!
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