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Purchased 10+ years ago but just photographed. My question is this: Was the reverse on the Flying Eagles always the hammer die? I feel like I've seen misaligned obverses on the Flying Eagles too.    Edited by robbudo
03/28/2012 11:10 am
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Nice misaligned die!  I have also read the reverse was the hammer die--the proof is this coin. |
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I can't find a single Flying Eagle with an obverse misaligned die. The Indian cents, however, I have an obverse misaligned die (1898) and a reverse misaligned die (1863). I wonder what year they switched the obverse and reverse as the hammer die? |
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They probably switched the dies at the same time they changed the composition. That would be my guess anyhow. Does anybody know if there were dies used for both compositions in 1864? Did the bronze ones get all new dies?
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Good question CaptainFwiffo.
I'd like to compile pictures from copper nickel and bronze 1864 MADs - and see if there is a correlation between composition and side that is off center.
Separately, I have a Bronze 1863 pattern cent, presumably made from the dies used to strike the Copper nickel cents.
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03/28/2012 1:08 pm
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found one 1864 bronze with an obverse misaligned die - so I bet that is when they switched the hammer die from reverse to obverse.
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Does anybody know if there were dies used for both compositions in 1864? Did the bronze ones get all new dies? In Rick Snow's attribution guide for 1864, he writes: "When the Mint shifted production to bronze in May, there would be no change of the dies...because (bronze) production started using mostly used dies (to strike the CuNi cents), many examples of this issue are found with evidence of heavy die wear. The exact date of the introduction of the new (L) dies is unknown. As dies were needed, it may have been purely random if a With L or No L die was put into the press" |
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It's not possible for the anvil to be misaligned (because of the collar) right? Or am I wrong about that?
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I think you're right--the anvil die is stationary inside the collar?  |
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I thought it was possible (although very rare) to have a coin with misaligned dies on each side. Is this not true?
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Yes, From Conder101 (on another forum)
"You can have both obv and rev dies misaligned and still not be an off center strike. The die in the collar can be misaligned to one side, just not to the extent the hammer die can be, and it can be misaligned in a different direction."
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My understanding is that it was indeed the hammer die the entire run. Though it is a 57, here is mine...   Edited by smokeriderdon
03/30/2012 2:36 pm
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nice '57! I wouldn't mind a complete run of them in MADs. I do have a complete run in various errors, though, and I guess I should post that compilation.
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Its got a ton of dings and bangs, but I got it under 50 so I was happy.
I would love to see that collection of errors.
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