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jwharper => Quote: Probus decided his best strategy would be to avoid a pitched battle and let the heat overcome the troops of Florianus. The latter, having reigned barely two months, was murdered by his own troops. Probus became sole Emperor ... man, these emperors seem to have such poor ethics, no? I guess stealth, strength and cunning were considered more valuable strengths than "ethics" in these good ol' days!  
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Doucet => "Concordia" Quote: 'Harmony' holds a cornucopia and pours a libation from a patera over a low altar. Often coins with Concordia in the legends will show two figures (gods or rulers) shaking hands => thanks Doucet, that is a very useful and interesting link to the "personifications"! .... awesome! 
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echizento => thanks for the link to the list "An Online Encyclopedia of Roman Rulers and Their Families" (this will be quite useful for checking to see which coins I need to order to complete my collection!) ... ... uh-oh, I'm already starting to get the "spending-itch" again! Thanks for participating, everybody! (I am certainly being given the royal treatment and I'm certainly gathering-up a plethora of valuable information!) => you guys rock!   
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Quote: ... man, these emperors seem to have such poor ethics, no? I guess stealth, strength and cunning were considered more valuable strengths than "ethics" in these good ol' days! I'm routinely shocked by the behavior of a few Roman emperors, particularly towards members of their own family.  The little I've read, inclines me to believe that Rome had their own ethics, where exercising strength over the empire and ensuring peace and prosperity were the foremost virtues of the emperor. Personal vices were often overlooked as long as the emperor delivered and the army was kept happy. However, those regarded as the wisest and most capable of emperors did also exercise better self-control. The best of the emperors would be good leaders in any era--just as their worst would always be criminals. Personally, if Imperial Rome had a "fatal flaw", it was in their constant push to expand the empire beyond limits which could be sustained. However, I'm sure they didn't recognize their "tipping point", nor foresee that "barbarians" would ultimately overrun Rome itself. Still, Rome left such an enduring legacy that later rulers would call themselves emperor, Tsar, and Kaiser--even using Roman coins as models for their own. Just my personal notes on Rome; feel free to correct or add anything. 
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dougsmit => ummm? ... even though you sent me that wonderful link associated with "officinae", I still need to ask for assistance with this coin ...
AXXI
=> the "A" is associated with the officina mark, correct?
=> the "XX" indicates 20 parts copper
=> but then I get a bit confused when it comes to the "I" ... is the "I" associated with 20:1 copper to silver ratio, or is the "I" associated with a city that starts with an "I"?
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Very cool graphic DVC ...
Yes, I am also starting to notice a pattern with these Romans => they just don't seem to know when to quit!
Nike => "JUST DO IT"
or is that Victory's logo?
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Quote: they just don't seem to know when to quit! Why quit, if the Roman army was unstoppable?  I also suspect the spoils of war were too profitable draw a line and stop their expansionism, and Rome increasingly relied on their provinces for food and resources. To their credit, Rome managed their empire well for a relatively long time. And I'm still amazed how their building projects survive across Europe. They were very good engineers, if not as culturally inclined as the Greeks.
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You are correct XX= 20 parts copper, I= 1 part silver.
Neat graphic DVC.
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Quote: Why quit, if the Roman army was unstoppable? They would have been, if they had modern weapons!  
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 I think one guy with a Browning M2 could stop a whole Roman legion. Even so, the Romans' tactics in battle were pretty effective, only the Germanic tribes managed to outflank and ambush their rigid troop formations--one reason they didn't get far into Germania.
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Cartoons aside, the Roman Legion was the best fighting machine of it's time. In modern terms, the Germanic tribes were in "shock and awe" when they were confronted by this war machine. Think of it like a modern army invading a backward country. According to written histories of the legions, the right flank was its most vulnerable so usually well protected by the better auxiliary and cavalry units. Just the idea of the Roman short sword and how it fit into the Roman style of warfare is awesome.
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I agree JW in regards to the Roman's ability to shock the Germanic troops. The disadvantage I alluded to were situations where the Romans were led into restricted areas were Germans could use terrain to their advantage, such as the Battle of Teutoburger Wald. It's not so much about coins, but a little bit of historical context that helped me understand why Rome stopped advancing past the Rhine river.
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