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I found a silver colored Sacagawea dollar the other day and lised it for sale on ebay. I got to thinking about it and I have never seen one like this before so I checked the interweb and I cant find any others like it anywhere. I listed it with a $10 starting bid but I'm thinking now that it might be worth more since it is (as far as I know) one of a kind. Any thoughts? it can be seen here. I guess I cant post a link to the ebay listing here.. I will add a picture when I have a chance.
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 Posted 04/09/2012  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add baysinger626 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it seems to be thinner than the regular coins and the edges arent as sharp.. almost rounded. It definitely looks like it is missing a layer if anything.

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 Posted 04/09/2012  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

It is difficult to say much of anything without a weight or picture. If it weighs the same as a normal golden dollar then the most likely explanation is that you have a coin that has been plated post-mint and it would be worth face value.
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 Posted 04/09/2012  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add baysinger626 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im not sure of the weight. I will check it when I can.

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OK, at first blush, I would say it's been plated, based on the glossy, non-lustrous appearance... Can you look at the edge? Does it show copper?
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There is no copper. It is the same color throughout.
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It definitely looks like it is missing a layer if anything.

The problem with that is that there should be nothing silvery on a golden dollar, the outer clad layers are manganese brass(yellow) bonded to a core of pure copper.
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Oh I see. So the coin being plated seems like the most plausible scenario. I have a penny that is missing its copper plating so I just assumed that this was the same sort of thing.. I didnt realize these were clad rather than plated.
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So it's a fake, when do you plan to take down the listing on ebay?
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It isn't a "fake," it just might be something other than what I thought it was.
Of course I will update the listing and notify the bidder and ask if they would like their bid removed. I may take it down all together.. I'm not sure yet.
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Fake Schmake ... It isn't an ERROR either.
I'm posting this thought anyways ... I was going to stay quiet about it as I almost always do but I feel you came here to promote the Shiny Sacagawea and ignored the rules.

Well the title says
2009 Sacagawea dollar ERROR coin
Title is emphasizing ERROR when you know now it is not an error but an altered coin.
Since somebody bid already, I don't think you can change the title of this listing, but even if you could, is this still worth selling at the risk of disappointing the uneducated final bidder? I feel it is misleading.
What bothers me is that you listed it on Apr 06 09:34 and visited this forum about 5 hours ago to promote the link which was removed because you did not read the rules.
I posted a link to the rules and the specific rule that you were breaking. This was removed with the original topic post.
Unless you took a course in speed reading, and got back here within a minute or so to re-post your topic, you only reply with the comment

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Any thoughts? it can be seen here. I guess I cant post a link to the ebay listing here..

Following "here" was the link to the listing. You just copied and pasted most of your comment and said you guess you can't post a link.
Around here, deceiving ebay listings are frowned upon and frequently reported. Sometimes we all have a good laugh at some of the more absurd, but I did not post the welcome sign to you for good reason.

I reported the listing at 3:06 PM and put you on my blocked bidder list.Whether you take it down or not, probably won't matter soon enough.
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 Posted 04/09/2012  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
, baysinger626!

Properly described,I have no problem with selling it, but it's almost 100% likely to be plated.
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Oh for gods sake...
I didn't post it here to "promote" the listing. I just happened upon this forum when I was trying to find out more about the thing because I realized after I put it up for sale that I might have been wrong about it. I posted it as an error coin because I thought that was what it was and I admit that I was, most likely WRONG. This forum seemed like a good place to look and thank you to all the people who have been helpful with this. I didn't read the entire "the rules" then because the one that made any difference in that situation was spelled out in the reply telling me that I wasn't supposed to post the link. I have since read them if that makes you happy. And yes, I did just copy and paste. So? I still wanted to get peoples opinions about it. Also, you blocked me on ebay? That just seems childish. I have already admitted that I was wrong and removed the listing. I will re list it when I find out enough about it and let the bidder know so they have a chance at it then.
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I would like to make peace with you baysinger626
Perhaps I boxed you into the kind that so often come here with their first post with other agenda and disregard the rules which are here for a reason. I am man enough to say I was harsh with you and for that I do apologize. I have been here a pretty long time and have seen all sorts of new members come in and maybe I was in a bad mood yesterday and went overboard trying to keep the community the way I feel it should be.
I wish we could let it go now. I hope that you stay here and that you will forgive the unwelcome start I gave you. Thank you and welcome to CCF.
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 Posted 04/10/2012  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
singer-

If you posted the pix and asked what it was, that's asking for advice. Having put it up for sale and asking could be considered promoting, and that tactic is often used by spammers. Nothing will be gained by discussing semantics at this point.

CCF is a close-knit group, and ppl like TheNickelGuy make lots of contributions to keep this forum and hobby clean and enjoyable, including pointing out apparent ebay scams.

CCF has some rules designed to protect users, and sometimes I disagree with them or feel they overshoot their goals, but that's not my place to decide. Having posted on many groups, I can understand why people skip "da rulez", which are usually a waste of time reading. Even now, I occasionally get smacked by some rule out of left field.

My still stands. Hang around and contribute, and you'll be fine.
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Thank you TheNickelGuy. I'm sorry I caused such a stir and I will try my best to adhere to the rules.

So anyway.. Any idea what this might be plated with? It looks like it could be silver, but there are a few scratches and if it were silver over brass I would expect to see tha brass under those scratches. The might not be deep enough I suppose.. but when something is plated isn't the plating super extra thin? Could it have been part of a mint set or something that came silver plated or composed of different materials? I still havent had a chance to weigh it.. I need to get a good scale.
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