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Pillar of the Community
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What is this? Copy of Austrian ducat? Its not gold as you can see from pics.   |
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Where did you get this? To me it matches the description of a copper off metal pattern listed in Krause under austria as Pn81. It doesn't list a mintage and But if its real it would have a reeded edge and have a market value of $450.
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I bought this few years ago. Coin has reeded edge and is 2.25 grams. I bought it from an old man how was selling of his coins and, I'm not sure right now, but I think that when I bought this coin he had at least one more left.
What are those patterns? Are those trial strikes or something else?
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Pillar of the Community
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... and how would I know if this is real pattern coin ?
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Pattern's are experimental coins produced by mints. Austria Pn81 was probably an off metal specifically struck for collectors. There are also examples in aluminum that seem to be more common than the copper ones. Since I'm not an expert on austrian coins I couldn't determine its authenticity for you but looking at several other examples on the internet it seems genuine to me. I would wait for another person who knows a bit more to respond, but I personally would send it out to get certified if I had it myself.~~~~
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Thanks XavierOfGreen,
I myself had this coin for years and thought that its some sort of Austrian ducat copy or fake coin.
I hope someone here knows more about these Austrian coins. Even if its fake I wont lose much money because I bought it cheep, but it would be nice if its real experimental coin with high catalog price.
I dont know if your noticed yellow (gold?) color around protuberances and letters. Thats what make me think its fake Austrian ducat, just gold plated.
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My collection on Numista page: 7500 different coins and counting... https://en.numista.com/echanges/pro...hp?id=129798 |
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Those two examples are bright red uncirculated coins, your coin would be a brown red coin. If you can find a weight somewhere for the pattern it might be easier to authenticate. I still would say third party certification is the best bet here though I would defer to an expert on Austrian coins if there is one here on the forum.
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I doubt that I can get authenticity/grading certificate for this coin in my area. I couldn't find exact weight for this coin, but I hope there is someone here who collects Austrian coins and knows more about this.
Thanks again XavierOfGreen
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The nearest third party grading/certification offices that I know of are NGC in Konstanz Germany and a PCGS office in Paris.
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The nearest third party grading/certification offices that I know of are NGC in Konstanz Germany and a PCGS office in Paris. Thanks for info, but that's too far away for me.  |
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