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1861 Rotated Indian Cent Collection

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Just photographed for your viewing pleasure.

85 degree clockwise rotation.

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95 degree clockwise rotation

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100 degree clockwise rotation

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135 counterclockwise rotation

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170 degree clockwise rotation

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Nice, thanks for posting the pics.
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Hey, robbudo, nice bunch of 1861 Indians you have there, love the rotation.
I'm trying to get a fairly decent one and you have 5.
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Sorry there SHAFTA9a, I've been buying most I've seen in the past 15 years. I did get outbid on a few in that time frame though.
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and the condition of these isn't anything to write home about, although the best of the lot is graded AU50 from ANACS.
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I have a 360 degree rotation if you're buying
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i did see one advertised as a 355 degree rotation!
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Nice set--I don't know about IHC errors--was 1861 known for rotated dies?
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Interestingly, the rotated die census puts the 1861 Indian cents, rotated between 90 and 180 degrees, at R6 (13 to 30 specimens are estimated to exist).
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..although the best of the lot is graded AU50 from ANACS.


I presume you mean coin #4, it also looks like it may be off center?
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Good catch SHAFTA9a. I'd say it has a minor misaligned obverse die. But this doesn't make a lot of sense to me seeing as the reverse was the hammer die until they switched to a bronze composition in '64.
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i did see one advertised as a 355 degree rotation!


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I have a 360 degree rotation if you're buying

BUT how much do you think a 365 degree one is worth?
I've got to go check on all mine. I usually notice the rotated Reverses on Mercury dimes but never thought about that on an Indian cent.
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the most common date for an Indian cent with rotated dies is actually the 1868 proofs, followed by 1864-L, then 1897.
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nice collection.
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