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1804 Draped Bust Half Cent. Spike Chin

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 Posted 04/13/2012  09:36 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add demerest to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm looking to buying this coin
is it worth the more then $ 200 dollars
i want to put an offer but don't want to go that high
is this coin rare

[eBayItem]390406546673[/eBayItem]
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 Posted 04/13/2012  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kookoox10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it was any other spiked chin, I would say $200 would be a nice starting point. Because of the Cuds, I would venture to guess this would be a nice rare Cohen variety. I wouldn't be surprised if it was snatched up for the BIN.
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 Posted 04/13/2012  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one would worry me about authenticity, here is why:

The metal around the 200 and United does not look right.
1804-Draped-Bust-Half-Cent.-Spike-Chin

In several places, another metal seems to be showing through (in the bust drape in this image)
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OK, let's here from the experts!
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 Posted 04/13/2012  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO this coin is genuine and well worth the buy it now price! If I didn't already have one, I'd buy this one! The Cuds are awesome!
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 Posted 04/13/2012  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
(Still need that icon with egg on its face for me)
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 Posted 04/13/2012  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add demerest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
are you 100 percent sure its fake
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 Posted 04/13/2012  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope! There were some things about it that didn't look right but I think wiser minds (i.e. Moe ) who have chimed in on it.
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 Posted 04/13/2012  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing wrong with the reverse, those are Cuds and indicate that the die was near failure. They would also be diagnostics for the die state to determine the specific variety. I would grade it VF, nice coin with no obvious signs of porosity or corrosion.
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 Posted 04/13/2012  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And Biokemist (). Thanks for the educational comments.

I think next time will post in the form of a question when I am not sure.
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1804 C-6 R-2. Not a rare variety but it comes in a LOT of different die states and is actively collected by die state. Breen lists 16 die states and I believe some specialists list more states than that. As near as I can tell this is somewhere between States XII or XIII. The left hand Cud doesn't extend to the top of I in UNITED until XIII, but the crack is not as heavy through the left to of M in AMERICA as shown on XIII. On the other hand the Cud from A to the right ribbon end is heavier on this coin than on XIII.

Since these are collected by die state so much it tends to make them more costly than an R-2 would ordinarily be because each collector needs 16 to 20 coins.
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 Posted 04/13/2012  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinstar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes Moe would definatly know....
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 Posted 04/13/2012  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rayman311 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Spiked chins are way cool! IMO it's worth the money.
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 Posted 04/13/2012  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with biokemist6 :)
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