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It does sound like an oxymoron, doesn't it? Some 19th century Russian copper coins state their denomination "in silver". "One kopeck in silver":  "Two kopecks in silver":  "Three kopecks in silver":  Edited by svslav
04/14/2012 8:29 pm
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My interpretation is that these were valued in terms of silver coins
The old silver wire Denga was valued at half a kopec.
I am uncertain how much silver you could exchange these coins for.
It is a bit like the old U.S. Silver Certificate Notes. Originally, these could be exchanged for 'one silver dollar', later 'one dollar in silver'.
You get nowt silver for them now!
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Right, agree with value in terms of silver coins, but probably not about the old silver denga. The value of metals was changing all the time (just as it does today), so it was in terms of current silver.
This legend, "... in silver" existed only between 1840 and 1847 with denominations 1/4k, 1/2k, 1k, 2k, and 3k. 3 kopecks was a "cartwheel" enough so there was no copper 5k at the time, 5k was the smallest silver coin (and obviously was valued at 5 kopecks in silver).
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I never appreciated this series but here are some coins: Quarter kopek - scratched:  Half kopek - off struck:  Two kopek - double struck + die clash (yes it makes you feel like dizzy):  Edited by gxseries
04/14/2012 10:12 pm
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And I find it [the series] rather curious. I just heed a half kopeck to complete it.
Of course you, gx, have a bunch of invalids there.
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The thing is, that silver was a standard of trade at the time. Just like the U.S. had silver until 1964. It basically says that you have 1-3 kopeks worth of silver, on a copper coin. :)
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Now that you reminded me svslav, the platinum coins did say their value weight in silver, i.e. 3 ruble in silver, 6 ruble in silver and 12 ruble in silver.
My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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I don't think I'll ever get my hands on those ... unless I win a lottery or something.
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I have a half kopeck / denga as well, only the corroded green patina will give away that it would be copper instead of silver.   |
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Completely unrelated except for the title  but maybe some of you would know anyway? I have a tiny Bohemian coin ( asked about it in the Unidentified forum), which completely matches its catalogue description - except that the catalogue describes a silver coin, and mine's almost certainly copper (in color at least). Anyone knows what could it be? My guess is contemporary counterfeit, but that if true would make it worth even more than a real one would've been, so any other realistic guesses are welcome. In case that helps: the coin has a bunch of surplus metal on the legend side covering some letters of the legend - which for me is pretty much a dead giveaway that whatever it is, it isn't a recent counterfeit (well, that or it's a really botched one). |
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... only the corroded green patina will give away that it would be copper instead of silver. Kingz, the legend was not supposed to trick people into thinking it's silver. There's a Russian proverb (by Koz'ma Prutkov), If a cage with a bull has a sign "LION" don't believe your eyes!January, it's hard for me to speculate about a coin without seeing it at all. I wish you luck on your quest! |
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January, it's hard for me to speculate about a coin without seeing it at all. I wish you luck on your quest! I've just posted the photos in the original thread. Warning: really crappy camera (and the coin's teensy tiny size and my lack of experience also didn't help much). |
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