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Margin Of Error In Coin Diameters

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 Posted 04/24/2012  11:07 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add enoilgam to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey Guys,

Just a curious question, what is the acceptable margin of error in terms of a coins diameter before its authenticity should be questioned?
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 Posted 04/24/2012  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would assume it depends on the time frame of when the coin was minted aka with the newer technologies smaller margins of error
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 Posted 04/24/2012  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enoilgam to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lets say pre-1950's and pre-1900's.
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Some of the bust coins can have a 3% difference or even more because of the way they were made.
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Really, that significant? For some reason I always thought it was plus or minus 0.2mm for struck coins, but I wasnt 100% sure.
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Modern coins struck in collar should not have any variation in diameter since the collar specifically defines the diameter, any slight reduction(hundredths-a couple tenths of a millimeter) would be due to wear. The US Bust Half Dollar(1807-1836) mentioned by nod2003 was struck on screw presses with an open collar so there was nothing to contain the expansion of the planchet when struck.
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Really, that significant? For some reason I always thought it was plus or minus 0.2mm for struck coins, but I wasnt 100% sure.

They shouldn't be bigger but if the metal scrinks, they could get smaller. Of course that depends on the type of metal and the temperature where your at. For example if you took a coin into out space where the temperature is really, really cold, the coin should scrink.
I've always wondered what a coin at absolute 0 would look like.
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Open collar coins can vary a fair amount. Coins struck in close collars should only vary based on the amount of wear the collar die has received. I think typically the tolerance in diameter is no more than a 2 or 3 thousandths of an inch.
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I did the inside tour of the Denver Mint at the Summer Seminar two summers ago and as we walked past the presses I saw a paper on each press with the sizes for diameter and thickness with an upper/lower limit size for the denomination being struck. The fact that they checked thickness caught my eye but if I remember right the difference in diameter for a nickel was around .005".
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