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1884 "S.mier & Co" Or Are My Eyes Playing Tricks?

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 Posted 04/27/2012  12:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Changeless to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I would appreciate help nailing down the identification of this token, and maybe find an image of one in better condition.
Dated 1884,
S.MIER & CO
The photos are a fair representation of what I am seeing.
But I can not find a comparable coin.
It looks like a town in "IND.", (Indiana?) but I can't find a town by that name....

Thanks in advance.





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 Posted 04/27/2012  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add worldnumis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is an 1863 Civil War Token issued by S.Mier & Co.,Ligonier, IN. It is listed as Fuld#550E1a, Rarity 4. Not worth much in that condition.
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 Posted 04/27/2012  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Changeless to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I can see the name of the town now that you say it. Oh for a stack of reference books...
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 Posted 04/27/2012  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Changeless to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am working my way through the plethora of web resources regarding the FULD numbering system, which I am gathering is a "die" cateloging method. ... and struggling a bit. However, I did find this image by Larry Moran on flickr which he said is IN550I-2a ... so this would be close to the original appearance of the Reverse of my 'find'.

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 Posted 04/27/2012  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny Guy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are a total of 5 different store cards that this merchant issued. With 3 different Revese designs (#1083, 1089, and 1091) and two metals, copper and brass. Larry's pic above is reverse 1083.
The link that follows is a treasure trove of information on CWT's. Bill Lutjie of Michigan has compiled a amazing amount of data. You can see the section showing reverse designs here> http://home.comcast.net/~bluitje104..._List_12.htm

Just select the revese # section using the above numbers to see all the designs used.
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 Posted 04/27/2012  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just buy the CWT Tokens book and be done with it.
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 Posted 04/27/2012  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Changeless to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess it is my learning style... sometimes it helps me to stumble around on the good web sites, and they sometimes add value over the book anyway.... so thanks PENNY GUY!!

On the otherhand.... THANKS CHEETAHCATS! I believe I will....
Check it out Cheetahcats.... http://www.coinbooks.org/

I found this with a bunch of old pennies.... never thought I would own one! Took me months to get around to looking at the ugly ol' thang....What a thrill!
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 Posted 04/27/2012  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny Guy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are welcome Changeless, now that you have the book, you should join the CWTS. http://www.cwtsociety.com/ Members have access to discount prices on reference materials. So, I'll be seeing you name on the next new member list? LOL
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 Posted 04/27/2012  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Indeed Bill. Members get a discount.

I recommend these two for getting started:
Patriotic Civil War Tokens (Fuld) 5th Edition, 436pp Hardcover
Non-Member Price: $35.00, Member Price: $30.00

U.S. Civil War Storecards (Fuld) 2nd Edition, 650pp Hardcover
Non-Member Price: $100.00, Member Price: $85.00

Membership is $15.00. The total discount for members is $20. Therefore, it's cheaper to join the CWTS and also buy the books at the member price at the same time.

Here is the correct page at the CWTS for joining and ordering: http://cwtsociety.com/books.html

I know that it is tempting to try and find info online, however, in the long run, I recommend acquiring the books. You never know when you might come across a specimen you really like, want to purchase it, but don't have the time or opportunity to surf about it on the net.

Good luck.
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 Posted 05/01/2014  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Penny Guy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice store card. On photobucket look for the box "Links to share this photo". Click on code to right of IMG, then paste here, and you get.........

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 Posted 05/03/2014  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One or two good finds will pay for the book! Happy hunting .....
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