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1857 Flying Eagle Cent You May Like To See

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 Posted 04/29/2012  05:46 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dooly to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all thought you all would like to see a picture of this coin I picked up in a job lot of coins .. almost jumped when I found the doubling but I think it is Mechanical/machine doubling. coun has a nice natural tone and I may see if NGC will grade it.

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 Posted 04/29/2012  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Curious coin -- the Flying Eagles cents were made out of copper.

Can you put up a photo of the reverse?

Have you checked the weight and measurement? See the US Coin Facts section for that information.

There were 'Type' coins made for those, but I don't know what those were supposed to look like. Maybe those were silver?
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 Posted 04/29/2012  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I did a little checking around on the net and I see that there are other silver colored flying eagles out there.

I also read where people think that a silver color means that the coin was cleaned.

I hope an expert comes along with some more insight!
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 Posted 04/29/2012  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mechanical Doubling is common on FEs--that's what you have here.
The coin has ~AU details, but was buried or subjected to the environment which affected the color and surfaces, followed by a cleaning.

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 Posted 04/29/2012  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing natural about that tone.
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 Posted 04/30/2012  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The FE cents were made of 88% copper 12 % nickel and when new were much whiter in color than we are used to. Back then they were sometimes called "white cents" or "nickels". Think of something like brass but silverish rather than yellow.

And I think the doubling on the date is Machine Doubling and not repunching.
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 Posted 04/30/2012  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dooly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi my meaning about the tone it is uncleaned natural tone (not like the messed about coins you see on ebay)and you can see some of the original tone around the letters to the right on the Obverse

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no repunching here (and I double checked Rick Snow's attribution Guide to the Flying Eagle cents. You, however, have pronounced Longacre doubling.
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 Posted 04/30/2012  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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You, however, have pronounced Longacre doubling.



I'm not convinced it is Longacre Doubling. Usually that would show on all sides of the letter/number doubled...creating a halo effect. Also wouldnt Lonacre doubling show on the reverse as well?

I believe it is Machine Doubling.
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04/30/2012 8:18 pm
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 Posted 05/01/2012  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ricardocody to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have about 10 flying eagles ant 2 of them used to black even darker then yours until I deep and it became to brass collor again but my advice is dont clean yours because you have a nice coin right there !
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 Posted 05/01/2012  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not Longacre Doubling, which was due to the die shoulder on the hub. MD is common on the CuNi FE cents.
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 Posted 05/02/2012  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
amida is correct, MD.
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 Posted 05/02/2012  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Simple solultion is to simply send to a TPGS such as PCGS or NGC. Let them say what it is.
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Simple solultion is to simply send to a TPGS such as PCGS or NGC. Let them say what it is.

And hope they get it right.

Or crack and slab half a dozen times and go for a consensus.
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 Posted 05/11/2012  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DV Collector is also correct, not Longacre doubling.


True MD.

Buddy:

They were copper-nickel, hence the color
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