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I am not going to test the bills I have, but I do wonder how old it was
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had to be for a series before 1969 because the pen wont work for any series before this.
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of course Shelbyville, this would never happen in Springfield.
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Those pens are such snake oil. Couldn't any prospective counterfeiter just get some starch-free linen to print on? And what if your money just happened to have been left in your pocket when you were starching your shirt?

How about they sell magnifying glasses as Counterfeit Detection tools so that cashiers can use the anti-counterfeiting measures that we pay money to have put on the bills in the first place.
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captain- I am a bank teller and we do not use the pens anymore, at least the banks in georgia I know of dont. We know all other security measures and the blue/red microfibers in the bills you can see without a microscope/magnifying glass.
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Banks don't use them, but grocery stores and whatnot do.
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I heard that spraying the note with hair spray, will make the pens say they are good notes.

It would be interesting to know how old that note was. Kind of funny when the police said they were sorry. I bet the person didn't think so. I don't understand how the police can make a mistake like that and get away with it, but any ordinary citizen can't. I guess he could have sued the police department for an improper arrest. I doubt it would hold up in court though.
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Wquinn, the hairspray thing is totally true. I work in a gas station and only use the pen "for form's sake" (i.e. we're required to use it). Only morons and people with money to lose rely on the pens--the rest of us check watermarks, security strips, colour-change ink, etc.


(And if you think "morons and people with money to lose" is strong language, one of my coworkers accepted two $100 bills because they marked real--I took one look at the bills and went "Norma, why don't you just start accepting Monopoly money while you're at it?" So obviously fake, fake, FAKE!)
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It would have been great to see what the fake $100 notes looked like. What gave it away?
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What DIDN'T give it away? The paper was too thick and the wrong texture--kind of like oily construction paper. It was a uniform light green, like a child's drawing of money, instead of that sort of white-with-a-touch-of-green that older bills should be. Held up to the light, the watermark appeared as a black portrait, instead of as a lighter, blurrier version of the bill's actual picture. One of the bills did not have a security strip even though it purported to be from 2001. The ink on Franklin's jacket was not raised, and the colour-changing "100" in the bottom right corner was broken (the ink there is usually thick, richly metallic, and glossy--this was scanty) and did not change colour. And while I can't say, exactly, "this is what was wrong with Franklin's face," there was an indeterminate "I can't put my finger on it, but I handle hundreds of these bills and something is wrong" about the shape of the nose and the hairline (one of my coworker's calls this "banker's sixth sense"). One of our coworkers also commented that something was wrong with the serial number. I would call that "wannabe witness syndrome" ("Yes, officer, now that you mention it was a horrific triple murder I DID hear that gunshot"), except that she is also a currency collector and while neither of us specialize in bills, she's levelheaded enough that when she says "something was wrong with the serial number," I believe her.


There's also what I call the "wrong factor." You know that funny feeling you get in your stomach that some people call 'gut instinct' and some call a 'hunch'? I knew before I ever touched the bill, and no magic pen was going to tell me otherwise, that the watermark looking back at me was going to be the fake black one. I described the feeling to a friend later and she said it was "the uncanny valley"--the bill looked just off enough to give me that queasy, kind of disgusted feeling. She got it absolutely right.
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